Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757371AbaJ2U0X (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:26:23 -0400 Received: from imap.thunk.org ([74.207.234.97]:51544 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756594AbaJ2U0W (ORCPT ); Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:26:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:26:16 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Andy Lutomirski Cc: Bastien Nocera , Pavel Machek , John Stultz , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: A desktop environment[1] kernel wishlist Message-ID: <20141029202616.GC5000@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Theodore Ts'o , Andy Lutomirski , Bastien Nocera , Pavel Machek , John Stultz , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <1413881397.30379.7.camel@hadess.net> <1413911644.30379.12.camel@hadess.net> <1413914978.30379.14.camel@hadess.net> <20141027092804.GB9807@amd> <1414420292.30379.55.camel@hadess.net> <54513DDC.2020700@amacapital.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54513DDC.2020700@amacapital.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 12:19:56PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote: > For a tablet, isn't the relevant piece of information whether the power > button was recently pressed, not whether the power button caused the wakeup? For Android L devices, it has been reported that the device might power up its screen fully (note I didn't say 'wake up') automatically when it detects that you are picking it up, or when you double-tap the screen. It also reportedly has a low power black and white "ambient display" (ala the Android Wear devics) which allows you to see notifications without waking up the phone all the way[1]. (All of this assuming appropriate hardware support, of course.) [1] http://www.androidauthority.com/ambient-display-lollipop-541198/ Which goes back to the concept of having a "suspend" mode is legacy thinking. Modern devices will soon have not just a "awake" and a "asleep" modes; there will be (well, is now) a much wider spectrum of modes, with the goal of using the minimum amount of power while still providing use functionality to the user. - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/