Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:43:59 +0100
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
        Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
        Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
        Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
        kan.liang@intel.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com, acme@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 18/20] perf: Allocate ring buffers for inherited
 per-task kernel events
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On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 10:44:54AM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
> 
> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 04:45:46PM +0300, Alexander Shishkin wrote:
> >> Normally, per-task events can't be inherited parents' ring buffers to
> >> avoid multiple events contending for the same buffer. And since buffer
> >> allocation is typically done by the userspace consumer, there is no
> >> practical interface to allocate new buffers for inherited counters.
> >> 
> >> However, for kernel users we can allocate new buffers for inherited
> >> events as soon as they are created (and also reap them on event
> >> destruction). This pattern has a number of use cases, such as event
> >> sample annotation and process core dump annotation.
> >> 
> >> When a new event is inherited from a per-task kernel event that has a
> >> ring buffer, allocate a new buffer for this event so that data from the
> >> child task is collected and can later be retrieved for sample annotation
> >> or core dump inclusion. This ring buffer is released when the event is
> >> freed, for example, when the child task exits.
> >> 
> >
> > This causes a pinned memory explosion, not at all nice that.
> >
> > I think I see why and all, but it would be ever so good to not have to
> > allocate so much memory.
> 
> Are there any controls we could use to limit such memory usage?

I'd say the same limit we're already accounting the mmap()s against. But
the question is; what do we do when we run out?

Will we fail clone()? That might 'surprise' quite a few people, that
their application won't work when profiled.

In any case, lets focus on the other parts of this work and delay this
feature till later.
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