Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161582AbaJ3XTU (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:19:20 -0400 Received: from 251.110.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.110.251]:49459 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161351AbaJ3XTT (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:19:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:19:04 +0000 From: One Thousand Gnomes To: "Theodore Ts'o" Cc: Bastien Nocera , Pavel Machek , Andy Lutomirski , John Stultz , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: A desktop environment[1] kernel wishlist Message-ID: <20141030231904.40eb7097@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20141030150501.GD31927@thunk.org> References: <1413911644.30379.12.camel@hadess.net> <1413914978.30379.14.camel@hadess.net> <20141027092804.GB9807@amd> <1414420292.30379.55.camel@hadess.net> <54513DDC.2020700@amacapital.net> <20141029202616.GC5000@thunk.org> <20141029211608.GA32576@amd> <1414680302.2406.55.camel@hadess.net> <20141030150501.GD31927@thunk.org> Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > It matters because for laptops, what's important is whether the lid is > closed or not. Whether and how the laptop was "woken" is really > beside the point, as others have argued. Your counter argument is > that tablets don't have lids. But tablets are going to be using > schemes similar to Android, Tizen, and Maemo, and they are *not* going > to be using the legacy suspend-to-RAM model, because it's not > sufficiently good at power saving. There's no longer a tablet/laptop divide in the general case. Many tablets are convertables and many not convertables are only "non convertable" in the sense that they are screwed together not fitted with funky connectors. There are also a host of reasons (tried making a high speed bus go round a hinge ?) that this is going to become more common. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/