Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422758AbaJ3XVo (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:21:44 -0400 Received: from 251.110.2.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.2.110.251]:49469 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161351AbaJ3XVn (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:21:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 23:21:25 +0000 From: One Thousand Gnomes To: Bastien Nocera Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , Pavel Machek , Andy Lutomirski , John Stultz , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: A desktop environment[1] kernel wishlist Message-ID: <20141030232125.78fd1d28@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1414682115.2406.59.camel@hadess.net> References: <1413911644.30379.12.camel@hadess.net> <1413914978.30379.14.camel@hadess.net> <20141027092804.GB9807@amd> <1414420292.30379.55.camel@hadess.net> <54513DDC.2020700@amacapital.net> <20141029202616.GC5000@thunk.org> <20141029211608.GA32576@amd> <1414680302.2406.55.camel@hadess.net> <20141030150501.GD31927@thunk.org> <1414682115.2406.59.camel@hadess.net> Organization: Intel Corporation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > I wouldn't consider this "suspend to RAM", but that's because I expect > the firmware to implement most of that. Anyway, that's splitting hair. Quite the reverse in many cases. If your hardware has low power idle you probably have almost no firmware involved (if any). It's the old world model of S3 which is all firmware powered. The extreme case of this is that there are processors out there where the equivalent of a 'wait for IRQ' instruction is the entire thing. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/