Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 04:12:34 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 04:12:34 -0500 Received: from mail.hometree.net ([212.34.181.120]:25732 "EHLO mail.hometree.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 04:12:33 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: forge.intermeta.de!not-for-mail From: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" Newsgroups: hometree.linux.kernel Subject: Re: RFC: p&p ipsec without authentication Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:20:27 +0000 (UTC) Organization: INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH Message-ID: References: Reply-To: hps@intermeta.de NNTP-Posting-Host: forge.intermeta.de X-Trace: tangens.hometree.net 1040030427 16130 212.34.181.4 (16 Dec 2002 09:20:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@intermeta.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:20:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Copyright: (C) 1996-2002 Henning Schmiedehausen X-No-Archive: yes X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1234 Lines: 29 Rik van Riel writes: >Hi, >I've got a crazy idea. I know it's not secure, but I think it'll >add some security against certain attacks, while being non-effective >against some others. While the idea itself is nice, it would allow many attackers on your host to "dive" under IDS systems or avoid stateful firewalls which do protocol verification. And IDS system is "a three letter acronym listening on your traffic". And you want to avoid that. =:-) It won't traverse many firewalls either (because they won't let IPSEC pass) and you might get in trouble with NAT and protocols that need NAT fixup. And you basically divide the Internet into "Linux <-> Linux" and "the rest". :-) Regards Henning -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH hps@intermeta.de Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/