Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753523AbaKJQQu (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:16:50 -0500 Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com ([209.85.213.176]:60989 "EHLO mail-ig0-f176.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753280AbaKJQQs (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:16:48 -0500 Message-ID: <5460E4E7.2040509@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:16:39 -0500 From: Austin S Hemmelgarn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: One Thousand Gnomes , "Theodore Ts'o" CC: Martin Tournoij , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC] The SIGINFO signal from BSD References: <1415200663.3247743.187387481.75CE9317@webmail.messagingengine.com> <545A7B00.1040309@gmail.com> <20141105201404.GH27083@thunk.org> <20141110142200.676b5d04@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20141110142200.676b5d04@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> x-hashcash: 1:21:141110:gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk::6653353d713296187237263ea097dde2:c30ce3ff2ab0579e x-hashcash: 1:21:141110:tytso@mit.edu::ec8013b758ef3ba4ad3eb04d04d25923:7b8a8541d072866a x-hashcash: 1:21:141110:martin@arp242.net::8260a27b30c7ef7696eeaeb640953b4f:8af59b618115503a x-hashcash: 1:21:141110:linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org::415e118df9cb929cc7524be723c9a5e:fec9aeaee3dac89d x-stampprotocols: hashcash:1:17;mbound:0:10:3000:5000 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms020203060408030804060902" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms020203060408030804060902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014-11-10 09:22, One Thousand Gnomes wrote: >> wouldn't be accepted. (BTW, if you're going to do this, note that ^T >> could be remapped to any control character via stty; so to do this we >> would need to define an extra index in c_cc[] array in the struct >> termios.) > > We have 19 entries in the array and no platforms that byte pack so that= > would actually be doable I think. > > I'm really dubious about its value in the Linux world. You could do far= > better teaching the GUI desktop to walk the process tree of clients and= > dump the window owners process subtrees in a nice pop up window. > > PS: Austin - SIGPWR was used on the System 5 boxes I used to indicate > power had been *restored* not lost. The primary usage was in curses and= > termios using apps so that when the power came back on they would redra= w > the screens on all the terminals. > > You have to think back to a world of a generator/battery backed servers= > and non battery backed terminals for that to make sense. Ah, I'd been misinformed then, that usage makes a lot more sense. 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