Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 02:44:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Andre Hedrick <andre@linux-ide.org>
To: "D.A.M. Revok" <marvin@synapse.net>
cc: Manish Lachwani <manish@Zambeel.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.19, don't "hdparm -I /dev/hde" if hde is on a Asus A7V133 
 Promise ctrlr, or...
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Guess you two need to head over to promise and get those blood letting
NDA's signed.  To figure out what is wrong with your deployment.
I have never seen this issue and I know every combination of command calls
to avoid.  What you are doing is not out of spec, just how you are are
doing it is.

Cheers,

Andre Hedrick
LAD Storage Consulting Group


On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, D.A.M. Revok wrote:

> Ahem.
> 
> You /may/ want to remind me, next time, that umounting all filesystems 
> except root, remounting root read-only, AND raid-stop'ing all arrays 
> would be a good idea before doing this ( I forgot the last one )
> 
> Also, it seems that all drives de-allocate a sector every time I do this, 
> and this is costing my system integrity...
> 
> 
> Yes, it happens on all drives on the controller, and I've 2:
> IBM 60GXP, 40GB == /dev/hde
> Quantum LM15, 15GB == /dev/hdg
> 
> booting into multiuser command-line mode, no X, login as root, umount 
> everything, "smartctl -a /dev/hde" ( or hdg ) gets 2 information lines, 
> the second being the model# of the drive, and it never reaches the third 
> line ( the newline doesn't appear ), and the drive-light comes on, and 
> it's permanently hanged.
> 
> I'd thought this would be implicit in the 
> * "cat /proc/ide/hde/identify" gets the same results *
> comment I'd made previously, but did it out of curiosity...
> 
> 
> When I did it on the Quantum, the Quantum's drive-light came on ( it's in 
> a "mobile-rack" ), so it seems that the drive-light actually is still 
> connected to the drive at that point, though nothing useful goes on 
> after...
> 
> 
> By the way, I seem to have hit this with the earlier 2.4.x kernels, ( 
> IIRC ), but had /so/ much problems with flaky config and flaky distros 
> at the time, that I didn't get that info out then ( by the time I got a 
> stable system, I'd forgot, sorry... )
> 
> 
> * Tell me which kernels you want me to try ( except ext3-broken ones ), 
> and I'll do it, so you can scope where-the-break-is better, TIA *
> 
>      -me
> 
> On Tue 17 December, 2002 7:09, you wrote:
> >Is it happening with all the drives on the controller? Is it possible
> > to immediaately gather the SMART data from the drive after bootup
> > using smartctl?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Manish
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> From: D.A.M. Revok
> >To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >Sent: 12/15/02 12:49 PM
> >Subject: 2.4.19, don't "hdparm -I /dev/hde" if hde is on a Asus A7V133
> >Promise ctrlr, or...
> >
> >( that's a capital-aye in the hdparm line )
> >
> >not even the Magic SysReq key will work.
> >
> >also, don't
> >
> >"cd /proc/ide/hde ; cat identify"
> >
> >... same thing
> >drive-light comes on, but have to use the power-switch to get the
> >machine
> >back, ( lost stuff again, fuck )
> >
> >
> >proc says it's pdc202xx
> >
> >Promise Ultra series driver Ver 1.20.0.7 2002-05-23
> >Adapter: Ultra100 on M/B
> 
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>  - "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" ( this site is same 
> principles as Covey's book )
> http://www.eiconsortium.org/research/ei_theory_performance.htm
>  - "Working With Emotional Intelligence" ( Goleman: this link is 
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