Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:02:59 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:02:59 -0500 Received: from out004pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.142]:14833 "EHLO out004.verizon.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:02:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3E023602.8080007@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:11:30 -0500 From: Stephen Wille Padnos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Bradford CC: Bill Davidsen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Dedicated kernel bug database References: <200212192032.gBJKWSpe002662@darkstar.example.net> In-Reply-To: <200212192032.gBJKWSpe002662@darkstar.example.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at out004.verizon.net from [64.223.83.18] at Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:10:55 -0600 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1733 Lines: 41 John Bradford wrote: > [snip] > >Interesting - so the first stage in reporting a bug would be to select >the latest 2.4 and 2.5 kernels that you've noticed it in, and get a >list of known bugs fixed in those versions. Also, if you'd selected >the maintainer, (from an automatically generated list from the >MAINTAINERS file), it could just search *their* changes in the changelog. > It's often difficult to pick a maintainer for a bug - it may not be the fault of a single subsystem. As an example, I recently had a problem getting USB and network to function (on kernels 2.5.5x). I noticed that toggling Local APIC would also toggle which of the two devices worked. Disabling ACPI allows both deviecs to function regardless of local APIC. So, where is the problem? 1) Network driver? It doesn't work with ACPI and both Local APIC and IO-APIC. 2) USB driver? It doesn't work with ACPI and no UP APIC. 3) APIC? Causes weird problems with various drivers when ACPI is turned on. 4) ACPI? Causes weird problems with various drivers when APIC is toggled. (this exact bug was in Bugzilla, though I hadn't checked there before mailing lkml ;) I'm not exactly a neophyte to the kernel, and I would have to do a lot more digging to find the right maintainer to send this to. Also, the person(s) to whom the bug is reported will depend on how much debugging work I do, and in what order I do it. I'm not trying to discourage you - just raising a potential gotcha. - Steve - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/