Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:31:50 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:31:50 -0500 Received: from conductor.synapse.net ([199.84.54.18]:18703 "HELO conductor.synapse.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:31:47 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: "D.A.M. Revok" To: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Right, I tried flashing the BIOS, as suggested, and /still/ can't enable SMART Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:38:45 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <200212201338.45492.marvin@synapse.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2345 Lines: 63 on the Promise U100 controller without blowing the system - terminally. I give up. According to what I can figure-out from the programmers' comments, it /isn't possible/ to correct that with the Promise chip, because of some peculiarity they engineered-in,... BUT... When the motherboard's BIOS initializes the chip I /can/ enable SMART, but then... I can't boot without having my boot-system on /dev/hde, rather than /dev/hda... Fuck it. I /think/ that if the BIOS can initialize the Promise chip, that it is (theoretically) possible for the kernel to initialize the chip to function correctly, but if Promise /won't allow/ paid-for chips to function in a way that gives us the reliability-system we paid-for, then the simplest solution is: 1. note it in the config helpfile ( Promise-controller-section ) to NEVER cat /proc/ide/hde/identify smartctl -e smartctl -a hdparm -I ( capital i ) &c. unless the Promise-BIOS is enabled in the motherboard's BIOS settings ( this will reduce systems trashed due-to-ignorance in linux ) 2. cease buying Promise chip-based systems for reliable-systems running linux, until they decide that customers are good, IF they decide customers are good... 3. maybe see what the mobos BIOS does and see if the kernel-driver could do that to get SMART to be useable on these chips irregardless ( love-that-word ) of the BIOS's settings Thanks for helping me understand, and as Jeff Dunteman says... Keep on hacking -me -- http://www.drawright.com/ - "The New Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" ( Betty Edwards, check "Theory", "Gallery", and "Exercises" ) http://www.ldonline.org/ld_indepth/iep/seven_habits.html - "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People" ( this site is same principles as Covey's book ) http://www.eiconsortium.org/research/ei_theory_performance.htm - "Working With Emotional Intelligence" ( Goleman: this link is /revised/ theory, "Working. . . " is practical ) http://www.leadershipnow.com/leadershop/1978-5.html - Corps Business: The 30 /Management Principles/ of the U.S. Marines ( David Freedman ) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/