Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:20:08 +0100
From: Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= 
	<u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: Wolfram Sang <wsa@the-dreams.de>
Cc: linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
        Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
        Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>, Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
        Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
        Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
        linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] i2c: slave-eeprom: add eeprom simulator driver
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Hello Wolfram,

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 07:26:30PM +0100, Wolfram Sang wrote:
> 
> > this mail is thematically more a reply to patch 1 and maybe just serves
> > my understanding of the slave support.
> 
> Sure. This shows how badly needed the documentation is :)
> 
> ...
> > > +		break;
> > > +
> > > +	case I2C_SLAVE_STOP:
> > > +		eeprom->first_write = true;
> > > +		break;
> > > +
> > > +	default:
> > > +		break;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	return 0;
> > > +}
> > This is the most interesting function here because it uses the new
> > interface, the functions below are only to update and show the simulated
> > eeprom contents and driver boilerplate, right?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > When the eeprom driver is probed and the adapter driver notices a read
> > request for the respective i2c address, this callback is called with
> > event=I2C_SLAVE_REQ_READ_START. Returning 0 here and provide the first
> > byte to send make the adapter ack the read request and send the data
> > provided. If something != 0 is returned a NAK is sent?
> 
> We only send NAK on write requests (I use read/write from the master
I don't understand this. Who is "we" in this case? 

> perspective). Then, we have to say if the received byte was successfully
> processed. When reading, the master has to ack the successful reception
> of the byte.
Right, I got this wrong in my question. On a read request (as seen from
the master) the master has to ack.
 
> > How is the next byte requested from the slave driver? I assume with two
> > additional calls to the callback, first with
> > event=I2C_SLAVE_REQ_READ_END, then event=I2C_SLAVE_REQ_READ_START once
> > more. Would it make sense to reduce this to a single call? Does the
> > driver at READ_END time already know if its write got acked? If so, how?
> 
> No single call. I had this first, but my experiments showed that it is
> important for the EEPROM driver to only increase the internal pointer
> when the byte was ACKed. Otherwise, I was off-by-one.
Sure, the driver has to know how his read response was received by the
master. But assuming I understand your abstraction right there is some
redundancy. There are only three cases on a read request (well plus error
handling):

 - master sends ACK, reads next byte
   in this case the slave must provide another word
   In your abstraction this implies
     callback(I2C_SLAVE_REQ_READ_END); <-- this is redundant
     callback(I2C_SLAVE_REQ_READ_START);

 - master sends ACK, then P or Sr
     callback(I2C_SLAVE_REQ_READ_END);
     maybe callback(I2C_SLAVE_STOP)

 - master sends NACK
   in this case the message ends and the master has to send Sr or P.
   In your case this results in:
     nothing for the NACK?
     maybe callback(I2C_SLAVE_STOP)

The situations where the slave has to react are:

 - slave was addressed with R
   input: address
   output: NAK or (ACK + data byte)
 - slave was addressed with #W:
   input: address
   output: NAK or ACK
 - data sent by slave-transmitter was acked
   output: next data byte (maybe unused because master sends Sr or P)
 - data sent by slave-transmitter was nacked
   output: void (unless we want to support IGNORE_NAK :-)
 - slave received a data byte (write)
   input: data
   output: NAK or ACK

This looks like a better model in my eyes. In this model the slave
driver doesn't even need to be informed about P. Not entirely sure about
"data sent by slave-transmitter was nacked".

> Ideally, I2C_SLAVE_REQ_READ_END should be used when the master ACKed the
> byte, right. However, the rcar hardware doesn't have an interrupt for
> this, so I imply that the start of a new read request ends the old one.
> I probably should add a comment for that.
> 
> > This means that for each byte the callback is called. Would it make
> > sense to make the API more flexible and allow the slave driver to return
> > a buffer? This would remove some callback overhead and might allow to
> > let the adapter driver make use of its DMA mechanism.
> 
> For DMA, I haven't seen DMA slave support yet. Makes sense to me, we
haha, there is only a single slave driver yet and you're the author.

> wouldn't know the transfer size, since the master can send a stop
> anytime. This makes possible gains of using a buffer also speculative.
> Also, I2C is still a low-bandwith bus, so usually we have a high number
> of small transfers.
> 
> For now, I'd skip this idea. As I said in another thread, we need more
> use cases. If the need arises, we can come up with something. I don't
> think the current design prevents such an addition?
It would change the API, but starting to get experience with byte
banging is probably OK.

Best regards
Uwe

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