Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:53:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:53:57 -0500 Received: from mail2.sonytel.be ([195.0.45.172]:8446 "EHLO mail.sonytel.be") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:53:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:00:47 +0100 (MET) From: Geert Uytterhoeven To: James Simmons , "Eric W. Biederman" cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Stian Jordet , Allan Duncan , Linux Kernel Development Subject: Re: Linux 2.5.51 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1788 Lines: 45 On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, James Simmons wrote: > > How well does this driver work if you don't have a firmware > > driver initialize the card? aka a pci option ROM. > > > > I am interested because with LinuxBIOS it is still a pain to run > > PCI option roms, and I don't necessarily even have then if it a > > motherboard with video. There are some embedded/non-x86 platforms > > with similar issues. > > > > My primary interest is in the cheap ATI Rage XL chip that is on many > > server board. PCI Vendor/device id 1002:4752 (rev 27) from lspci. > > > > If nothing else if some one could point me to some resources on > > how to get the appropriate documentation from the video chipset > > manufacturers I would be happy. > > > > But I did want to at least point that running a system with out bios > > initialized video was certainly among the cases that are used. > > Unfortunely ATI doesn't like to release info on what needs to be done to > initialize without frimware. I really wish this was the case. I did see > email back about someone getting a mach64 card working without firmware. > They used a bus analysiser to do this. I will see what kind of patches I > can dig up. Indeed, just ask Steve Longerbeam . Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/