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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:00:47 +0100 (MET)
From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: James Simmons <jsimmons@infradead.org>,
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On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, James Simmons wrote:
> > How well does this driver work if you don't have a firmware
> > driver initialize the card? aka a pci option ROM.
> >
> > I am interested because with LinuxBIOS it is still a pain to run
> > PCI option roms, and I don't necessarily even have then if it a
> > motherboard with video.  There are some embedded/non-x86 platforms
> > with similar issues.
> >
> > My primary interest is in the cheap ATI Rage XL chip that is on many
> > server board. PCI Vendor/device  id 1002:4752 (rev 27) from lspci.
> >
> > If nothing else if some one could point me to some resources on
> > how to get the appropriate documentation from the video chipset
> > manufacturers I would be happy.
> >
> > But I did want to at least point that running a system with out bios
> > initialized video was certainly among the cases that are used.
> 
> Unfortunely ATI doesn't like to release info on what needs to be done to
> initialize without frimware. I really wish this was the case. I did see
> email back about someone getting a mach64 card working without firmware.
> They used a bus analysiser to do this. I will see what kind of patches I
> can dig up.

Indeed, just ask Steve Longerbeam <stevel@mvista.com>.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

						Geert

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Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
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							    -- Linus Torvalds



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