Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753687AbaLBEbK (ORCPT ); Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:31:10 -0500 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183]:41444 "EHLO smtp.gentoo.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752638AbaLBEbH (ORCPT ); Mon, 1 Dec 2014 23:31:07 -0500 Message-ID: <547D409F.7090004@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 23:31:27 -0500 From: Richard Yao User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: One Thousand Gnomes CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why not make kdbus use CUSE? References: <20141129063416.GE32286@woodpecker.gentoo.org> <20141201142311.37c81ff1@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20141201142311.37c81ff1@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tS9NJEJItXTghmmhX0AdBmqND2G4KcK7g" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --tS9NJEJItXTghmmhX0AdBmqND2G4KcK7g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/01/2014 09:23 AM, One Thousand Gnomes wrote: >> told quite plainly that such distributions are not worth consideration= =2E If kdbus >> is merged despite concerns about security and backward compatibility, = could we >> at least have the shim moved to libc netural place, like Linus' tree? >=20 > I would expect any other libc would fork the shim anyway (or just not > bother with systemd in most cases). If the shim were in glibc, then that would be reasonable, but the shim is in systemd. That would make the systemd developers the gate keepers ta kernel interface. If we are going to enforce Linus' stable API policy, then the shim should be in a repository that has a track record for interface stability, which the systemd developers simply do not have. It was not that long ago that firmware loading was moved into the kernel because they had caused problems. I do not think that the systemd developers are the correct ones to assume stewardship over such code. If kdbus is merged, I think the best situation would be to move it into Linus' tree. --tS9NJEJItXTghmmhX0AdBmqND2G4KcK7g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUfUCtAAoJECDuEZm+6ExkSlEQAJqpYK86k19nl/6ETvzkS0Np Il9FpkT91xfhQq+Ur35ex7fdrGAgFTk+Fl5zDyQT9goSPN3G2z3wDBpgcsCGlPK9 JGFWcUOXfccOSpn361UkoYsh0LoNdvO427uHpAw8gLJH+xo19nPJpQqjeQx050gT 4ricEEFs2RfPwYUBi0/8vSBTaOtTZNBC/TnuuiFDGTj71DguRirmOpeOd+U2KQMm s4ztABqMtm7RnCdyAVsjiiKz/c6DNSaQ0hRidQHVPNnzNr6vhJZUFt3Dvw3zmFQq YPTy6DCqEMOOd3YligsVf1UNepWWAVsm/BtoNfMBMrcGJbpHjCDw7hC/R5sUfaRB 1FerHJAOf9Ldk9pFf0V75JyUALvPL3Wb0LJcHt1udBBP2kFdsu/DlZOpL2so16BI /jYSdAwkBUaH7T/g0fvem9Nt4daTc+cvwTP6XthCr6vsEZc4C2EyKkZSCUzywcqa rBI8kMDEtGStaLKZV+QaFtUi+v22QdYLu9jc1FKkD5Ljaxb3nX0InpxoQGzXC0li kfw1PXjbBGj7MDJtoXoByulg5bU/afxU6TolXtSmfD2iJiTUJL5NR2wjJEwWrFaM UHCgzvVUdfbS4toiUpTKdMazKNQuzNTSKUY+VwTM9WQyiI8C2hIOfellx0E/timO HHtAeSi+JvInBYL9vV5/ =N/OZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tS9NJEJItXTghmmhX0AdBmqND2G4KcK7g-- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/