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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 16:21:23 -0800
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Subject: Re: [CFT][PATCH 7/8] userns: Add a knob to disable setgroups on a per
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On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Eric W.Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>
>
> On December 9, 2014 4:28:38 PM CST, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>>On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Eric W. Biederman
>><ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> - Expose the knob to user space through a proc file
>>/proc/<pid>/setgroups
>>>
>>>   A value of "deny" means the setgroups system call is disabled in
>>the
>>>   current processes user namespace and can not be enabled in the
>>>   future in this user namespace.
>>>
>>>   A value of "allow" means the segtoups system call is enabled.
>>>
>>> - Descendant user namespaces inherit the value of setgroups from
>>>   their parents.
>>>
>>> - A proc file is used (instead of a sysctl) as sysctls
>>>   currently do not pass in a struct file so file_ns_capable
>>>   is unusable.
>>
>>Reviewed-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
>>
>>But I still don't like the name "setgroups".  People may look at that
>>and have no clue what the scope of the setting is.  And anyone who, as
>>root, writes "deny" to /proc/self/setgroups, thinking that it acts on
>>self, will be in for a surprise.
>
> True setgroups isn't perfect.  Documenting it in a manpage may have to be enough. The only real improvement I can think of would be to make the setting a sysctl.   But I think pursuing that approaches the point where perfection is the enemy of getting this problem fixed.
>

Would "userns_setgroups" be okay?

--Andy

> Eric



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Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC
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