Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 00:50:54 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 00:50:54 -0500 Received: from smtp-outbound.cwctv.net ([213.104.18.10]:44857 "EHLO smtp.cwctv.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 00:50:51 -0500 From: To: tyketto@wizard.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 05:59:12 +0000 Subject: RE:Re: Re: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Liberate TVMail 2.6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1041400752366" Message-ID: <0f8d21656050113DTVMAIL7@smtp.cwctv.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4224 Lines: 93 --1041400752366 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit you are incorrect about how the GPL works you are attempting to anger me but I dont care, go and learn, finish school, then annoy me. Dean. Three ways to kill yourself, and ive been drove in one... On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:51:45 -0800 A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: --1041400752366 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from emory.viawest.net ([216.87.64.6]) by smtp.cwctv.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Wed, 1 Jan 2003 05:51:47 +0000 Received: from bellicha.wizard.com (dyn39.nas6.vegas.viawest.net [209.170.209.39]) by emory.viawest.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/viawest-2.1) with ESMTP id h015pkuQ013683; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 22:51:47 -0700 (MST) Received: (from bradl@localhost) by bellicha.wizard.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h015pjY08939; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:51:45 -0800 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:51:45 -0800 From: A Guy Called Tyketto To: Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Re: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Message-ID: <20030101055145.GA8790@wizard.com> References: <0f8e32227050113DTVMAIL7@smtp.cwctv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0f8e32227050113DTVMAIL7@smtp.cwctv.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: Linux/2.4.19 (i686) X-uptime: 21:35:07 up 26 days, 16:33, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 X-RSA-KeyID: 0xE9DF4D85 X-DSA-KeyID: 0xE319F0BF X-GPG-Keys: see http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto/pgp.html Return-Path: tyketto@wizard.com On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 05:30:18AM +0000, Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net wrote: > They are stealing by changing GPL files, and not giving the source, its And just how the smeg do you KNOW they're CHANGING these files, aye? Do you have some super secret K-9 nose that the rest of us don't, and can tell? Have you reverse engineered the binary to see? Please, enlighten us. not for personal use so they are DISTRIBUTING it, and INCLUDING IT. This does not make sense. You're saying they're changing GPL'd files, though they can use them any way they choose, as long as they notify the original author of the changes they made. Whether they redistribute the CODE, is up to them. They chose not to. As long as they have notified those who wrote the headers, no GPL violation has been made. BUT they dont give out their DERIVED source. Once again, there is no clause in the GPL that states they MUST give out the code. All they need to do is notify the author. Also, They MUST give out the code, if they've MODIFIED the headers. You'd be stewing and eating your boots for dinner if NVidia released the code, and you found no headers to be modified. their code, they can do anything they want. But for the headers, all they'd need to do for changing their code, is to keep a current version of the headers from the kernel, and program their C code to their content. Once again, No. GPL. Violation. I work with C everyday and when you put in a header file you are including it, all kernel headers are GPL. I read the license 4 times a day and have since 1995. And we don't deal with C at all. The kernel is programmed in COBOL, ADA, Modula-2, Mumps, and Pick. Hell, I just might port it part of it over to Logo. Oh damn.. Apple will sue me for that.. Let's port it to C! I'll learn it, with my trusty Visual C, and Borland C compilers! BL. -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: tyketto@wizard.com Unix Systems Administrator, | tyketto@ozemail.com.au Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! :) | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF --1041400752366-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/