Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:42:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:42:04 -0500 Received: from smtp-outbound.cwctv.net ([213.104.18.10]:33820 "EHLO smtp.cwctv.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:42:03 -0500 From: To: andersen@codepoet.org, billh@gnuppy.monkey.org, paul@clubi.ie, riel@conectiva.com.br, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rms@gnu.org Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 06:48:33 +0000 Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Liberate TVMail 2.6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1041490113993" Message-ID: <0a9503844060213DTVMAIL4@smtp.cwctv.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4264 Lines: 91 --1041490113993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I say we start a driver based on the UTAHs. MR. Anderson had a good schedule :), knock knock neo... ;-)) Dean McEwan, If the drugs don't work, [sarcasm] take more...[/sarcasm]. On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:12:33 -0700 Erik Andersen wrote: --1041490113993 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.116.70.75]) by smtp.cwctv.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 2 Jan 2003 06:13:35 +0000 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:04:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:04:04 -0500 Received: from codepoet.org ([166.70.99.138]:8417 "EHLO winder.codepoet.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:04:02 -0500 Received: by winder.codepoet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2CF801579E0; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:12:33 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 23:12:33 -0700 From: Erik Andersen To: Bill Huey Cc: Paul Jakma , Rik van Riel , Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rms@gnu.org Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Message-ID: <20030102061233.GA20916@codepoet.org> Reply-To: andersen@codepoet.org Mail-Followup-To: Erik Andersen , Bill Huey , Paul Jakma , Rik van Riel , Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rms@gnu.org References:

<20030102013736.GA2708@gnuppy.monkey.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030102013736.GA2708@gnuppy.monkey.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.19-rmk2, Rebel-NetWinder(Intel StrongARM 110 rev 3), 185.95 BogoMips X-No-Junk-Mail: I do not want to get *any* junk mail. Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: linux-kernel-owner+Hell.Surfers=40cwctv.net@vger.kernel.org On Wed Jan 01, 2003 at 05:37:36PM -0800, Bill Huey wrote: > Obviously a GPL rewrite of this would entail a lot of replicated effort > and would also depend on things that are incomplete, non-existent and > don't have a lot direct interest from the GPL community. 3D isn't a hot > commodity in Linux, FreeBSD unlike with dedicated SGI machines (although > faded). Ahh, but replicated effort is something that open source people do very well at indeed. If nvidia provided non-functional GPL source code with all the proprietary 3rd party bits ripped out, I would expect a hoard of developers would jump at the chance to fixup the non-functional mess, clean it up, reimplement all the missing proprietary bits. I'd bet you $20 US we could have a functional driver within 2 weeks. And have a high quality driver roughly equal to their proprietary one within 6 months. Thats the way things work around these parts of the net. I bought a copy of Quake when they GPLd their code to show support. I similarly bought a copy of Quake II after they GPLd their code. If Nvidia released their code under the GPL, I'd buy one of their cards. As is, I'm sticking with my ATI card... -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen http://codepoet-consulting.com/ --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ --1041490113993-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/