Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:31:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:31:20 -0500 Received: from smtp-outbound.cwctv.net ([213.104.18.10]:3103 "EHLO smtp.cwctv.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:31:18 -0500 From: To: josh@stack.nl, riel@conectiva.com.br, mark@justirc.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:39:04 +0000 Subject: RE:Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Liberate TVMail 2.6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1041529144778" Message-ID: <008da5838170213DTVMAIL1@smtp.cwctv.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4345 Lines: 100 --1041529144778 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unfortuanately it requires patches, doesnt have a clear license, has bad coding style, the docs suck, im stuck to my eyeballs in cirrus code, and well, its not very clean, requires two input layer hacks, im writing docs that dont get completed cause the api, well, it sucks, aside from that, ive got a nice ggi acorn emulator... Dean McEwan, If the drugs don't work, [sarcasm] take more...[/sarcasm]. On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:57:54 +0100 (CET) Jos Hulzink wrote: --1041529144778 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from vger.kernel.org ([209.116.70.75]) by smtp.cwctv.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:58:52 +0000 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:49:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:49:33 -0500 Received: from vaak.stack.nl ([131.155.140.140]:65040 "EHLO mailhost.stack.nl") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:49:32 -0500 Received: by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 111A360F03; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:58:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from toad.stack.nl (toad.stack.nl [2001:610:1108:5010:202:b3ff:fe17:9e1a]) by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E0760EC5; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:57:55 +0100 (CET) Received: by toad.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 971) id 01B2E961F; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:57:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:57:54 +0100 (CET) From: Jos Hulzink To: Rik van Riel Cc: Mark Rutherford , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030102104612.V63864-100000@toad.stack.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=8.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01 version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: linux-kernel-owner+Hell.Surfers=40cwctv.net@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Mark Rutherford wrote: > > > I would LOVE to see Nvidia open source, > > We cannot force our ideas on a company, all they will do is turn and walk away. > > We can show them our way, if they like it, good. if not, we tried. > > Nvidia is a smart company, otherwise they wouldn't be in > business today. I'm sure they'll switch to the GPL only > once it will be in their advantage to do so and no sooner. > > When would it be an advantage for them ? > > The moment there is a GPL graphics library (at the right > system level, of course) that's so good Nvidia won't be > able to resist using that library could be such a moment. > > A new project for Hell.Surfers ? ;) Mr Surfers has already showed up at the KGI development team, but as I think his attitude doesn't quite fit in the team, I have not encouraged him to help. But yes, there is a GPL graphics kernel module / library (KGI & GGI) that should run on linux and any BSD real soon now. The Radeon and Matrox drivers are in place, already. The 3D accelleration framework is in place, but the GGI GL implementation is not yet existing. For those who want to take a look: the website (www.kgi-project.org) is outdated, we lost contact with the maintainer :( Please take a look at the kgi-wip project at sourceforge (CVS only) and at irc.openprojects.net #kgi Jos - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ --1041529144778-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/