Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:05:23 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:05:23 -0500 Received: from codepoet.org ([166.70.99.138]:9121 "EHLO winder.codepoet.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:05:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:13:52 -0700 From: Erik Andersen To: Andrew Walrond Cc: Helge Hafting , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Message-ID: <20030103161352.GA13466@codepoet.org> Reply-To: andersen@codepoet.org Mail-Followup-To: Erik Andersen , Andrew Walrond , Helge Hafting , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <1041596161.1157.34.camel@fly> <3E158738.4050003@walrond.org> <3E159336.F249C2A1@aitel.hist.no> <3E15A2C8.7060903@walrond.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E15A2C8.7060903@walrond.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.19-rmk2, Rebel-NetWinder(Intel StrongARM 110 rev 3), 185.95 BogoMips X-No-Junk-Mail: I do not want to get *any* junk mail. Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1680 Lines: 35 On Fri Jan 03, 2003 at 02:48:40PM +0000, Andrew Walrond wrote: > Oh. But I don't give you the source code to my game. Crikey - How are > going to debug it if it breaks??? Am I bad again ? You are comparing apples and oranges. Software and hardware are fundamentally different. Nobody can download a graphics card and email copies to 50 of their friends. Your game (a piece of software) is the product. For Nvidia, their card (a piece of hardware) is the product. Nobody is suggesting Nvidia should give away all their hardware and chip designs and GPL them. That would of course be ludicrous. The only thing that is hoped for is that Nvidia might choose to release specs on their cards so folks can talk to their hardware. Sortof like how Intel and AMD and many other hardware companies releases specs on their chips so people can do whatever they want with them. Where would Linux be if Intel had never released the specs for their i386 chip? Has releasing the specs for their CPUs hit Intel? Nope. Because they have a boatload of patents and a boatload of lawyers. Similarly, Nvidia also has a boatload of patents and a boatload of lawyers... But thus far, they have not chosen to release specs. Thats their choice. But as a result of their choice, I choose to buy other hardware. -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen http://codepoet-consulting.com/ --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/