Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:36:50 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:36:50 -0500 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:37046 "EHLO mail.bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:36:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 08:45:14 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: David Schwartz Cc: andrew@walrond.org, Marco Monteiro , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Message-ID: <20030103164514.GN9166@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , David Schwartz , andrew@walrond.org, Marco Monteiro , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1882 Lines: 33 > However, with a license like the GPL, every game has to be developed on a > proprietary base. You simply can't afford to put any money into an open > source base. So every game has to start back from square one, or the most > advanced proprietary base that can be found. Back in the heyday of attention to open source, I spent hours and hours and hours on the phone with Raymond trying to get the OSI to come up with a "business source license" which would address some of these issues. think there is a strong need for something like that, but the GPL fanatics are desperate to paint the world as black or white and force people into an entirely open or entirely closed choice. The reason they want to do this is that they know darn well that it is always the middle of the road compromise which wins, and they don't want to compromise. So we get these endless tirades about how the GPL is the One True Way and anything else is Evil. It was most unfortunate that I couldn't get anywhere with ESR. If he and the OSI had come up with some compromises, rather than just pandering to a small but vocal group, I think that he would have cemented a significant place in history. I am positive that the world will eventually move in directions where there is some sort of compromise, maybe something like you get N years of closed use and then the old stuff has to be opened, whatever. The world already understands that you need to make money to survive and the world is starting to understand that there is value in having things be open. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/