Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751801AbaLaPFc (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:05:32 -0500 Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com ([209.85.212.169]:33069 "EHLO mail-wi0-f169.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751765AbaLaPFa (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:05:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20141231144617.GE6332@pd.tnic> References: <20141230212326.GA29263@pd.tnic> <54A328C2.5080606@lwfinger.net> <54A3D955.6020809@broadcom.com> <0BA3FCBA62E2DC44AF3030971E174FB31B5DD8D8@hasmsx107.ger.corp.intel.com> <54A3FECC.7050202@hurleysoftware.com> <20141231144617.GE6332@pd.tnic> From: Julian Calaby Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 01:56:54 +1100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "cfg80211: make WEXT compatibility unselectable" To: Borislav Petkov Cc: Peter Hurley , "Grumbach, Emmanuel" , Jiri Kosina , Arend van Spriel , Linus Torvalds , "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "egrumbach@gmail.com" , "ilw@linux.intel.com" , "Berg, Johannes" , Larry Finger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Borislav, On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 1:46 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote: > On Thu, Jan 01, 2015 at 01:40:53AM +1100, Julian Calaby wrote: >> Sadly, nobody will read that. It needs to be at least an error, >> possibly with a big splat to scare people. >> >> Maybe using one of WARN()'s siblings instead. > > And that opens a lot of useless bugzillas... > > The right thing to do is go talk to the maintainers of the userspace > tools or send patches. The point is that WEXT has been depreciated for _years_. Nobody seems to have listened. Yes, talking to maintainers will get the last holdouts of the "big" tools (e.g. wicd) to fix them, but it's not going to change all the people out there with hacked together home-grown setups. Yes, a full WARN() will end up with loads of duplicated bugzillas - and I wish I had the time to volunteer to close every last one with "upgrade your userspace to use nl80211 / iw" - but I feel that speaking quietly hasn't worked: maybe now we need to yell. Thanks, -- Julian Calaby Email: julian.calaby@gmail.com Profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/julian.calaby/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/