Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:23:48 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:23:36 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]:48065 "EHLO fencepost.gnu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:22:24 -0500 From: Richard Stallman To: lm@bitmover.com CC: mark@mark.mielke.cc, billh@gnuppy.monkey.org, paul@clubi.ie, riel@conectiva.com.br, Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-reply-to: <20030103040612.GA10651@work.bitmover.com> (message from Larry McVoy on Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:06:12 -0800) Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <20030102013736.GA2708@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030102055859.GA3991@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030102061430.GA23276@mark.mielke.cc> <20030103040612.GA10651@work.bitmover.com> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:30:56 -0500 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2174 Lines: 44 Yeah, if only the company that has invested millions in trying to scratch out a place to stand, if only they would give us their intellectual property for free, The term "intellectual property" lumps together copyrights, patents, trademarks and other more obscure areas of law, all of which are totally different. (See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html.) Its main use is to obfuscate the difference between these areas and discourage careful clear thinking. The clear part of your statement is your attitude toward our community. You express derision for the very idea of asking a company to contribute to free software. We are fortunate that Netscape, Sun, and IBM, and the people who won their partial cooperation, did not take your advice. Of all the programs in our community, your hostility falls most squarely on kernels, since kernels are where most drivers go. Every Linux developer should take note of the wishes you have just implied for the future development of Linux. Give it up, Stallman, we live in a capitalistic world. The Russians tried communism and it didn't work. The free software movement has always existed within Capitalism, and fits within the Capitalist system. Our views have little in common with Communism--we encourage business as long as it respects other people's freedom to cooperate. Nothing could be more different from the command economy that failed than the decentralized free software community. Inaccurate though it is, our enemies sometimes call us Communists. Perhaps because Communism is easier to attack than our real views. It is the world of proprietary software and other non-free information that resembles the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union made strenuous efforts to prevent and punish forbidden copying. The US today is using analogous repressive methods to do the same thing. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-free.html. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/