Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:34:58 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:34:58 -0500 Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.62]:52707 "EHLO snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:34:56 -0500 Message-ID: <08ed01c2b381$e3efc590$1125a8c0@wizardess.wiz> From: "jdow" To: "Samuel Flory" , "Andrew Walrond" Cc: "Larry McVoy" , "David Schwartz" , "Marco Monteiro" , References: <20030103164514.GN9166@work.bitmover.com> <3E160614.1080809@rackable.com> <20030103215530.GG24896@work.bitmover.com> <3E1614D1.50100@walrond.org> <3E1618EC.3030206@rackable.com> Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:43:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2479 Lines: 42 From: "Samuel Flory" > I simply question the idea that someone would need or want to download > the source, and compile it for the purposes of piracy. The current > state of things seems to indicate the absence of source doesn't prevent > piracy. I suspect that I can find a usable pirated copy of virtually > any popular software on the net. This because copy protection doesn't > work against any intelligent and determined person. It works against > the really lazy, and stupid who wouldn't be able, or want to compile a > program any way. There is a logic fallacy here, Samuel. Absence of source not preventing theft has nothing to do with the level and kind of theft if the source is placed out there for competitors to steal. When the hardware playing field is more or less even and the OS playing field is more or less even the only particular value added for games or for small marketplace code comes from wringing superior performance out of the provided components. When I place a piece of software out for purchase that features a new innovation in the use of a given hardware platform my competitors look it over intently, "How'd she do that?" I am pretty sure they can figure it out quickly enough. But, I still have a 3 to 6 month lead time to pay for the roof over my head before the competitors are selling the same feature. If I give then my source code that lead time goes away and I am left flipping burgers to pay for a coding habit. Trust me, it ain't going to go down that way. If a benefactor cares to pay for my innovations and release them with source immediately then I am willing to play the game. I am not after world domination. I just want to pay for my food and housing and some hobbies so that my life is worth living. I'm just not willing to give away what should be creating a life for me. That way of living is an exotic form of suicide. As a software consultant my income is getting paid for my work. If I release that code to the public immediately it is ready for release I don't have an income. Both my stomach and the IRS get disappointed. The latter I can happily deal with. The former is more bother than I can handle. {^_^} Joanne, jdow@earthlink.net - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/