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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: How to fix CDROM/DVD eject mess?
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On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 01:34:32PM +0000, One Thousand Gnomes wrote:
> > By working with people who spent a lot of time with the questions what
> > the default behavior of user interfaces should be. Buttons, especially
> > physical ones, need to give immediate feedback to the user. If they
> > don't give it it, people will look for something else to get what they
> > want.
> 
> So spend a day in a location which isn't full of desktop users. In an
> environment where these are systems doing real world work you do not want
> to be having CD-ROMs eject because someone pushed the wrong button or
> because they bumped one.

Even for desktop users, if you said desktop users are using
executables or data files on the removeable storage device, and the
device gets ejected unceremoniously --- even if it was mounted
read-only --- is very likely going to cause the application to crash.
If the user hadn't saved their data before they accidentally bumped
the eject button, the user could be pretty unhappy....

    	  	      	   	    - Ted
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