Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:58:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:58:06 -0500 Received: from zamok.crans.org ([138.231.136.6]:6302 "EHLO zamok.crans.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 03:58:05 -0500 To: Bob Taylor Cc: rms@gnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? X-PGP-KeyID: 0xF22A794E X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5854 AF2B 65B2 0E96 2161 E32B 285B D7A1 F22A 794E From: Vincent Bernat In-Reply-To: <200301040655.WAA08576@ann.qtpi.lakewood.ca.us> (Bob Taylor's message of "Fri, 03 Jan 2003 22:55:23 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.4 (Military Intelligence, i386-debian-linux) References: <200301040655.WAA08576@ann.qtpi.lakewood.ca.us> Organization: Khabale Inc Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 10:06:35 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1910 Lines: 39 OoO En cette aube naissante du samedi 04 janvier 2003, vers 07:55, Bob Taylor disait: >> Inaccurate though it is, our enemies sometimes call us Communists. >> Perhaps because Communism is easier to attack than our real views. > The former Soviet Union *was not* a communist system. Look up > their *full* name. Your views are Socialist pure and simple. > Didn't work for them. Sadly for you neither can you. The former Soviet Union _was_ a communist system, whatever the full name was. Keywords of communism are collective propriety and class abolition. Everyone gets a work, everyone is paid the same amount. All these are not relevant for socialism (it may have been revelant hundred years ago and it may be the reason of the name, communism was initially a strong and extremist form of socialism). Moreover, today's European communism is just a strong form of socialism without these two dogmas (in France, none of the communist aspirant pushed one of these in the latest presidential elections). Many Europeans country are controlled by a socialist government (France was socialist until 2002, Germany is still socialist, UK is socialist [definitely not capitalist], etc). None of them stated that we have to give work for free. Your conception of communism and socialism is probably wrong. At least, I see absolutely no link between socialism and free software or GNU. I suppose you have a strong example which will tell us why you say that RMS' views are just socialism. -- MY SUSPENSION WAS NOT "MUTUAL" MY SUSPENSION WAS NOT "MUTUAL" MY SUSPENSION WAS NOT "MUTUAL" -+- Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode BABF10 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/