Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965549AbbBDNV0 (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Feb 2015 08:21:26 -0500 Received: from h1446028.stratoserver.net ([85.214.92.142]:37742 "EHLO mail.ahsoftware.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751292AbbBDNVW convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Feb 2015 08:21:22 -0500 Message-ID: <54D21CC8.4020705@ahsoftware.de> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:21:12 +0100 From: Alexander Holler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Kerrisk CC: =?UTF-8?B?THVrw6HFoSBDemVybmVy?= , Al Viro , "Theodore Ts'o" , Linux-Fsdevel , Linux Kernel , Linux API Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] WIP: Add syscall unlinkat_s (currently x86* only) References: <1422896713-25367-1-git-send-email-holler@ahsoftware.de> <1422896713-25367-2-git-send-email-holler@ahsoftware.de> <20150203060542.GZ29656@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <54D071AA.1030302@ahsoftware.de> <20150203075616.GA29656@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <54D08BF4.3000903@ahsoftware.de> <54D093A0.7090201@ahsoftware.de> <54D0C3B8.2050507@ahsoftware.de> <20150203174839.GD2509@thunk.org> <54D10D0E.8090204@ahsoftware.de> <20150203233332.GE29656@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <54D1F215.9030404@ahsoftware.de> <54D20F02.5050700@ahsoftware.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2333 Lines: 55 Am 04.02.2015 um 14:06 schrieb Michael Kerrisk: > Alexander, > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Alexander Holler wrote: >> Am 04.02.2015 um 13:07 schrieb Lukáš Czerner: >> >>> The fact is that the current patches are useless for anything other >>> than proof-of-concept. Now you know more that needs to be done or >> >> >> That's wrong. The patches already work. If you delete a file which isn't in >> use by something else, the current contents will be wiped on traditional >> harddrives. I assume that already fulfills more than 50% of use cases of >> ordinary people. > > You are getting various feedback from people, that you seem to be ignoring. I'm happy for all the feedback. But it doesn't help me. I'm not going to spend the necessary time unpaid. . > Al Viro, in his curmedgeonly way, points out that the problems are > much deeper than you realize. He does not say so explicitly, but I > imagine his point is that he does not want to see the kernel cluttered > with "partial" solutions that will simply increase the maintenance > burden in the long term, and leave bugs to be fixed further down the > line. You seem not to be listening. It doesn't help me nor anyone else. As Eric Sandeen made me aware through in bug, look at http://lwn.net/Articles/462437/ what already happened. > Lukáš points out to you that getting a feature like this into the > kernel is complex process. You seem unwilling to hear that, and still > just want your partial solution. Wrong. I don't want my partial solution to be part of the official kernel. I don't care. I offered it for other users because I'm aware that has become almost impossible for normal people to get something into the kernel without spending an unbelievable amount of time most people can't afford to spend. > I tell you that discussions of APIs should CC linux-api, which I am > now CCing into this thread, again, because, again, you're not > listening to feedback. Please don't confuse "not listening" with "unable to fulfill Linux kernel maintainer requests". Alexander Holler -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/