Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S966945AbbBDRjK (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:39:10 -0500 Received: from mga03.intel.com ([134.134.136.65]:8910 "EHLO mga03.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S966608AbbBDRjH (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:39:07 -0500 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.09,519,1418112000"; d="scan'208";a="680888974" Message-ID: <1423071544.9530.107.camel@schen9-desk2.jf.intel.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] locking/rwsem: Avoid deceiving lock spinners From: Tim Chen To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Jason Low , Davidlohr Bueso , Ingo Molnar , "Paul E. McKenney" , Michel Lespinasse , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:39:04 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20150204120621.GH23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <1422609267-15102-1-git-send-email-dave@stgolabs.net> <1422609267-15102-5-git-send-email-dave@stgolabs.net> <1422669098.9530.33.camel@schen9-desk2.jf.intel.com> <1422671289.28351.1.camel@stgolabs.net> <1422983812.9530.43.camel@schen9-desk2.jf.intel.com> <1422986041.2368.3.camel@j-VirtualBox> <1422992616.9530.78.camel@schen9-desk2.jf.intel.com> <20150204120621.GH23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5 (3.8.5-2.fc19) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1963 Lines: 46 On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 13:06 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 11:43:36AM -0800, Tim Chen wrote: > > That's true. We cannot have the lock grabbed by a new write > > contender as any new writer contender of the lock will be > > queued by the OSQ logic. Only the > > thread doing the optimistic spin is attempting write lock. > > In other word, switching of write owner of the rwsem to a new > > owner cannot happen. Either write owner stay as the original one, or > > we don't have a write owner. So using test of write owner > > switching as an indicator of congestion is incorrect. > > > > If my reasoning above is sound, then the check > > > > + if (READ_ONCE(sem->owner)) > > + return true; /* new owner, continue spinning */ > > + > > > > is unnecessary and can be removed, as we cannot have a > > new write owner of the rwsem, other than the thread > > doing optimistic spinning. > > I have read the rest of the thread; but the one thing that I didn't see > is trylocks, trylocks can always come in an steal things regardless of > the OSQ stuff. Jason also pointed that out. So the owner change check is needed after all. Now because of the OSQ logic, even if owner has changed, the likelihood that the spinner at the head of OSQ will acquire the lock is high. So it should continue to spin. That's because any new threads coming in will try lock only once, and go to the OSQ. It is unlikely that they will trylock at the precise moment when the owner release the lock as they do not continue to spin on the lock. The contention from new threads are low. So letting the thread at head of OSQ to continue to spin is probably the right thing to do. Tim -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/