Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 20:39:43 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 20:39:43 -0500 Received: from barbelith.montana.com ([66.109.128.41]:28614 "EHLO barbelith.montana.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 20:39:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? From: Chief Gadgeteer To: David Schwartz Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20030105002637.AAA11205@shell.webmaster.com@whenever> References: <20030105002637.AAA11205@shell.webmaster.com@whenever> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Date: 04 Jan 2003 18:48:06 -0700 Message-Id: <1041731292.8962.120.camel@FatBoy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2749 Lines: 54 On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 17:26, David Schwartz wrote: > Believe it or not, the easiest way to get rich is to provide people > what they want at a reasonable price. The purpose of money is to > provide an incentive for other people to do what you most need done. I agree. Thus, if there is a significant difference in our points of view it must be one of semantics as to what "get rich" means. /* opps, this got rather long winded */ My main objection is that those who seek to "get rich" then seek to get even richer by using their wealth to distort the playing field in their favor by various means. Or those who would claim innocence while exploiting non-ethical methods pioneered by others. The latter would be those who take the position that it is OK to leverage the concept of "intellectual property" because it is what all the wealthy folks are doing. When I was born (1961) something like 50% of the wealth in the US belonged to 40% of the people. Today, over 90% of the wealth belongs to less the 5% of the people. (The statistics in the last two sentences are vague memory, I do not stand behind their absolute accuracy.) When my father bought his home in 1970 for $21,000 he was making about $10 an hour as a highly skilled carpenter. Such a highly skilled carpenter in the same region makes not quite twice that today. However, the same home now sells for about $145,000 or more than seven times as much. For the majority of Americans these trends hold true i.e. stagnant wages while the cost of everything goes through the ceiling. The exceptions to this are those who work in fields that control the flow of information in some way. These methods include such means as lobbying successful for laws that promote or protect certain business models, limiting who might enter a field by raising the bar to entry, asserting "intellectual property" rights, and questionable business practices that lead to a market monopoly. I wonder how it looked to the rest of a society when a power elite emerged in the past? Would there not have been many parallels to what we are seeing today? Would they have not heard many of the same arguments being used today? Would not many of the influential dissenters have been bought off by giving them a vested interest in the emerging/existent power structure? As was commented elsewhere in this ridiculous thread, it is funny how one's tune changes once they too own a piece of intellectual property. -- Chief Gadgeteer Elegant Innovations - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/