Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:30:36 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:30:36 -0500 Received: from mail.hometree.net ([212.34.181.120]:18578 "EHLO mail.hometree.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:30:35 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Path: forge.intermeta.de!not-for-mail From: "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" Newsgroups: hometree.linux.kernel Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 18:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH Message-ID: References: <20030102013736.GA2708@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030102055859.GA3991@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030102061430.GA23276@mark.mielke.cc> <20030103040612.GA10651@work.bitmover.com> Reply-To: hps@intermeta.de NNTP-Posting-Host: forge.intermeta.de X-Trace: tangens.hometree.net 1041791949 17898 212.34.181.4 (5 Jan 2003 18:39:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@intermeta.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 18:39:09 +0000 (UTC) X-Copyright: (C) 1996-2002 Henning Schmiedehausen X-No-Archive: yes X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2340 Lines: 52 Richard Stallman writes: >to contribute to free software. We are fortunate that Netscape, Sun, >and IBM, and the people who won their partial cooperation, did not >take your advice. Funny you mention IBM here. I was always under the impression, that the IBM Open Source effort is mainly there to sell more boxes (which are well supported by the "good guys' operating system" because they offer and support open source GPL drivers. And then run their applications on it, which are not, I repeat, _NOT_ open sourced or free. So they give away a few drivers which doesn't earn any money anyway, get lots of good publicity and community support for free and also put a foot in the back of a company which they don't like but have to license/support their OS anyway (Microsoft). To my (and obviously to the clued people inside IBM) this sounds win-win. You can do this if you're IBM. Any before you ask why I wrote this: To me, by calling IBM "the good guys", you're activly promoting their non-free, close-sourced applications running on top of Linux (and their hardware). "Stallman called IBM the good guys. Buy their Websphere application suite running on Linux on eSeries Hardware. Film at 11". They're not an open source company. Neither are Sun (which also sells Hardware and applications; ironically their iPlanet stuff comes from Netscape) or Netscape (their Applications are now called "iPlanet" and come from Sun =:-) and with open sourcing their browser they didn't give away anything; they already lost the browser wars to Microsoft and noone could read their code anyway). But all three sucked you into saying "IBM, Sun and Netscape contributed to free software". But you don't understand their motive. Which is money. And the stuff that earns the money wasn't open sourced at all. Regards Henning -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Geschaeftsfuehrer INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH hps@intermeta.de Am Schwabachgrund 22 Fon.: 09131 / 50654-0 info@intermeta.de D-91054 Buckenhof Fax.: 09131 / 50654-20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/