Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:43:17 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:43:17 -0500 Received: from h-64-105-35-112.SNVACAID.covad.net ([64.105.35.112]:33975 "EHLO freya.yggdrasil.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:43:15 -0500 From: "Adam J. Richter" Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:51:39 -0800 Message-Id: <200301052251.OAA10215@adam.yggdrasil.com> To: akpm@digeo.com Subject: Re: Linux iSCSI Initiator, OpenSource (fwd) (Re: Gauntlet Set NOW!) Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, andre@linux-ide.org, hell.surfers@cwctv.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lm@bitmover.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3121 Lines: 67 Andrew Morton writes: >Is everyone OK with treating the contents >of header files in the same was as EXPORT_SYMBOL()? ie: LGPL? I don't believe that anyone other than Linus has explicity given their permission for the "EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL / EXPORT_SYMBOL" system. However, I'm not trying to obstruct other people giving what permissions they want with the code that they wrote, so I'd like to point out a problem and suggest a fix to your proposal. Your proposal would prevent "EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL" inline functions. I can think of a solution which would (1) allow both kinds of functions and (2) which I think would be more legally defensible than posting a message to a mailing list and asking "is everyone OK with it]". Have the appropriate copyright owners move their "proprietary callers OK" inline functions to files with the appropriate copyright statements (such as LGPL or something similar), or submit changes to the copyright statements of entire .h files in cases where you've got the explicit agreement of all the copyright owners for that file. Along the same lines, those copyright owners (individuals, companies, etc.) who seek to create a kernel that contains only content that allows proprietary modules could start by explicitly stating that they now irrevocably give the same permission that Linus gave in his gnu.misc.discuss posting for their past contributions and any future contributions that they make before they say otherwise. At least socially, it would come with better graces for people to grant permissions on their copyrights before trying to interpret away other contributors' copyrights. However, before you grant such permission, I recommend that you consider whether permission that allows proprietary linking against only EXPORT_SYMBOL functions really means allowing proprietary modules to call *all* functions by just including a GPL-compatible library module like so: void loophole_ide_setup_pci_device (struct pci_dev *dev, ide_pci_device_t *d) { return ide_setup_pci_device(dev, d); /* ide_setup_pci_device is an EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL function in 2.5.54. */ } EXPORT_SYMBOL(loophole_pci_hp_register); One could presumably do the same with an function that is not even exported, and perhaps even avoid the subroutine jump by using static inline declarations. As far as I can tell, it would be essentially equivalent to switching to the LGPL. Come to think of it, if this _is_ what you want, then maybe you find it simpler to just grant permission to copy your code under the LGPL. I'm not a lawyer, so don't take this is as legal advice. Adam J. Richter __ ______________ 575 Oroville Road adam@yggdrasil.com \ / Milpitas, California 95035 +1 408 309-6081 | g g d r a s i l United States of America "Free Software For The Rest Of Us." - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/