Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:57:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:57:25 -0500 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net ([66.54.152.27]:52919 "HELO jive.SoftHome.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:57:24 -0500 Subject: Re: Honest does not pay here... From: Steven Barnhart To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Date: 05 Jan 2003 20:05:52 -0500 Message-Id: <1041815156.14592.4.camel@sbarn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2008 Lines: 53 On Mon, 06 Jan 2003 13:01:41 +1300, Andrew McGregor wrote: > I've had some discussion with an ex-NVidia guy who was there while they > were doing the driver release. > > They wanted to dual GPL/BSD license the kernel part in the first place, > then they realised they had a problem. They don't own the copyright on all > that code themselves, nor do they have the right to redistribute specs for > all of the hardware without NDA, because it consists in part of purchased > 'IP blocks' (as hardware people call libraries). So in the end they've > opened up as far as they were allowed by preexisting constraints. > > Remember, the hardware was not constructed with an open source driver in > mind. It's fairly easy to build hardware which can have open source > drivers (you choose your IP block vendors carefully), but NVidia did not do > that in the first place, and now they are stuck. > > So your belief about hardware is just plain false, unfortunately. You're > free not to buy their hardware, but I don't think you are being fair to dis > them when they appear to have gotten the point of open source but been > stymied by other vendors. NVidia do try hard to give you the right to use > their stuff with Linux, but there is only so far they can go. > > I expect if Linux makes them enough money, they might buy the rights they > don't have, and release the driver in full. But don't expect that to > happen soon, because if you think proprietary software licenses can be > expensive, you haven't seen hardware. > > Andrew Finally someone who explained this to everyone. Thanks Andrew you cleared this up to quite a few people. -- Steven sbarn03@softhome.net GnuPG Fingerprint: 9357 F403 B0A1 E18D 86D5 2230 BB92 6D64 D516 0A94 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/