Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:34:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:34:49 -0500 Received: from fluent2.pyramid.net ([206.100.220.213]:40072 "EHLO fluent2.pyramid.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:34:45 -0500 Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030105173556.01e30560@fluent2.pyramid.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 17:43:16 -0800 To: "Trever L. Adams" From: Stephen Satchell Subject: Re: Honest does not pay here ... Cc: Andre Hedrick , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <1041812124.1052.10.camel@aurora.localdomain> References: <2209530000.1041811301@localhost.localdomain> <1041805731.1052.4.camel@aurora.localdomain> <2209530000.1041811301@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1938 Lines: 44 At 07:15 PM 1/5/03 -0500, Trever L. Adams wrote: >I expect that IP is expensive to buy. Anyway, thank you for explaining >the Nvidia situation to me. I really hope they do figure out some >things soon. (Even if that is just how to make kernels with their >modules loaded more stable and easier to debug.) Trever, Just because Nvidia incorporate API-related intellectual property in their current products doesn't mean that the next product they do will have the same IP restrictions. Assuming that government and corporations continue to examine and adopt Linux over other desktop systems, Nvidia's project managers will have some incentive to look at this issue more closely. As I see it, Andre's problems are a little tougher because there isn't a choice of alternatives to the IP that he incorporates in his product, if I'm reading his contributions correctly. (I've not followed the arguments closely, so I could very well be in need of disabusement of my incorrect notions.) I'm surprised Richard Stallman didn't remind everyone of the thing that started the whole argument for free software: his inability to drive a laser printer because of closed, unpublished specifications. I won't put words in his mouth (RMS is more than capable of speaking for himself) but his concern is if the company goes away and there are problems with the binary-only module, then people will be forced to junk the hardware or live with the problems. Ok, I'll go back to my hole now. Satch -- The human mind treats a new idea the way the body treats a strange protein: it rejects it. -- P. Medawar This posting is for entertainment purposes only; it is not a legal opinion. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/