Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:01:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:01:05 -0500 Received: from astound-64-85-224-253.ca.astound.net ([64.85.224.253]:40714 "EHLO master.linux-ide.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:01:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:08:23 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Hedrick To: Richard Stallman cc: akpm@digeo.com, riel@conectiva.com.br, andrew@indranet.co.nz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux iSCSI Initiator, OpenSource (fwd) (Re: Gauntlet Set NOW!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2232 Lines: 51 Richard, Can you admit the follow, that GPL has everything to control redistribution, and has ZERO context for copyright. The holders of the copyright control the issues. See your whole hook is "Derivative Works" well, I implimented a protocol. It works regardless of platform or OS. All it uses are simple and standard kernel services. Since I am willing to list every kernel function I call, and see who is going to object to me doing what everyone else is doing and is clearly positioned as accepted as of 1995. If you were not aware of this position, and I was not either, tough. Linus sets the rules and he controls the key interfaces. Next you have NO ownership in the kernel, so unless you try to collect a group of copyright holders and advocate on their behalf, I think you are way out of bounds to even be here, period. As you have stated already, this is an issue exclusive to the copyright holders, and you are not one of us. So please live by your own words, or state you legal position to be here in the affairs of the Copyright holders. Regards, Andre Hedrick, CTO & Founder iSCSI Software Solutions Provider http://www.PyXTechnologies.com/ On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Richard Stallman wrote: > I suggest that if a function happens to be implemented as an inline > in a header then it should be treated (for licensing purposes) as > an exported-to-all-modules symbol. So in Linux, that would be LGPL-ish. > > The Linux developers can certainly do this, if the copyright holders > of the substantial functions in question go along with it. Even if > they already went along with linking to their functions from non-free > modules, this is still somewhat different. > > The question only arises for the specific non-small functions that are > to be inlined in headers in this way. (Inlining a very small function > from a header is probably not significant for copyright.) Perhaps the > copyright holders of these functions are few and easy to ask. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/