Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:43:50 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:43:50 -0500 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.9]:15076 "EHLO shockwave.systems.pipex.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:43:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? From: Philip Wyett To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <3E177535.D84F4867@justirc.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-p2QkBOZS1UbSg/pkmmWb" X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Date: 06 Jan 2003 04:55:21 +0000 Message-Id: <1041828922.1015.38.camel@rh8-workstation> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3088 Lines: 82 --=-p2QkBOZS1UbSg/pkmmWb Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 03:25, Richard Stallman wrote: >> I think that everyone knows the connection between the Linux kernel = and GNU. >=20 > I wish that were true. Most of the people who know about the system > have heard of "Linux" but they have not heard of GNU. Geeks often > think they know, but what they know is often wrong; for instance, they > often say that "GNU is the name of a collection of tools that are used > in Linux." (See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#tools.) >=20 Hi, While I agree with you that the system should be called 'GNU Linux' and be referred too as such in communication etc. When your with a customer advocating implementation of the operating system for example. You cannot contradict and try force correctness/fairness of naming, unless you want to annoy and turn your customer off too you! For most people in the commercial world, we can use 'GNU Linux' when we write and speak hoping people catch onto it and nothing really more bar explain if someone asks why we call it 'GNU Linux'. You would I hope respect this. Also the page you linked to is alot of the problem. Yes people have a position on how something should be. However, too go on and on about it just gets up peoples noses. On the page is the following segment: "However, there are people who do not like our saying this. Sometimes those people push us away in response. On occasion they are so rude that one wonders if they are intentionally trying to intimidate us into silence. It doesn't silence us, but it does tend to divide the community, so we hope you can convince them to stop." The rudeness is not intimidation or not liking you to mention it I feel. Most people can be informed of something once or twice, but when it's told too them a third, fourth and fifth time they get frustrated to the point where the only means of communication is an outburst! Yes it is not probably the best of language used, but what they are trying to say is "Can you just change the record for a while please?". Sorry in advance to the animal lovers. :) There is more than one way to skin a cat and I think the preaching method has had it's day and more subtle methods may prove more productive. Regards Philip Wyett --=20 AIM: PhilipWyett ICQ: 135463069 Email: philipwyett@dsl.pipex.com -- Public key: http://www.philipwyett.dsl.pipex.com/gpg/public_key.txt -- --=-p2QkBOZS1UbSg/pkmmWb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+GQw5Kb/cIyIfGioRArvGAJ99hxGbasluOPgC3znZMaDn4Aa1uACgiW1+ h5aodJzNJda6pLu9+XnZ0GQ= =rFNy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-p2QkBOZS1UbSg/pkmmWb-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/