Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:27:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:27:48 -0500 Received: from sdsl-208-184-147-195.dsl.sjc.megapath.net ([208.184.147.195]:62552 "EHLO bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 31 Oct 2000 17:27:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 14:27:33 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: "Jeff V. Merkey" Cc: Larry McVoy , Paul Menage , Rik van Riel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: 2.2.18Pre Lan Performance Rocks! Message-ID: <20001031142733.A23516@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Jeff V. Merkey" , Larry McVoy , Paul Menage , Rik van Riel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <39FF3D53.C46EB1A8@timpanogas.org> <20001031140534.A22819@work.bitmover.com> <39FF4488.83B6C1CE@timpanogas.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <39FF4488.83B6C1CE@timpanogas.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 03:15:37PM -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > The quality of the networking code in Linux is quite excellent. There's > some scaling problems relative to NetWare. We are firmly committed to > getting something out with a Linux code base and NetWare metrics. Love > to have your help. Jeff, I'm a little concerned with some of your statements. Netware may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but it isn't a full operating system, so comparing it to Linux is sort of meaningless. Consider your recent context switch claims. Yes, I believe that you can do the moral equiv of a longjmp() in the kernel in a few cycles, but that isn't a context switch, at least, it isn't the same a context switch in the operating system sense. It's different - last I checked, Netware was essentially a kernel and nothing else. Is there a file system? Are there processes with virtual memory? Are they preemptive? Does it support all of P1003.1? Etc. If the answers to all of the above are "yes" and you can support all that and get user to user context switches in a clock cycle, well, jeez, you really do walk on water and I'll publicly apologize for ever doubting your statements. On the other hand, if the answers to that are not all "yes", then how about you do a little truth in advertising with your postings? Without it, they are misleading to the point of being purposefully deceptive. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/