Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 10:49:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 10:49:15 -0500 Received: from mark.mielke.cc ([216.209.85.42]:27652 "EHLO mark.mielke.cc") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 10:49:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:06:17 -0500 From: Mark Mielke To: Helge Hafting Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? Message-ID: <20030106160617.GA6046@mark.mielke.cc> References: <20030105223753.GC31840@mark.mielke.cc> <20030106014322.7b924543.spyro@f2s.com> <20030106052631.GA2728@mark.mielke.cc> <3E195E21.CE6A33BD@aitel.hist.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E195E21.CE6A33BD@aitel.hist.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1865 Lines: 39 On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 11:44:49AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: > Mark Mielke wrote: > > A closed source product with an expensive price tag provides this > > level of responsibility to customers. (at least in theory) > Nope. Did anybody ever sue microsoft because windows crashed and ate > the disk, destroying valuable data? Or for loss of productivity during > downtime? Then the problem is that companies get away with marketting poor quality solutions. They wouldn't get away with it if they sold a car, or a baby high-chair. Why should they get away with it for software? Software managed by the community cannot have a single point of responsibility. I'm telling you why companies initially don't like such products. I'm not claiming whether it is right, or whether it applies in reality. If you want to convince a company otherwise, you can't ignore the concern. You need to convince them that their feeling of security from closed source projects is unfounded. It isn't hand waving, or general claims like 'when have you ever been able to get MS to pay for its mistakes?' It is hard numbers. These are not easy to come by. mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/