Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:44:27 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:44:27 -0500 Received: from falcon.vispa.uk.net ([62.24.228.11]:11528 "EHLO falcon.vispa.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:44:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3E1A16A5.8070903@walrond.org> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 23:52:05 +0000 From: Andrew Walrond User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20021020 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rms@gnu.org CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in non-freedrivers? References: <1041725489.1770.36.camel@sbarn.net> <3E19517B.3030805@walrond.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1750 Lines: 42 Richard Stallman wrote: > > The GNU/Linux system is pretty large. For that matter, GCC and Linux > are pretty large. So I think you're simply underestimating what we > can do ethically, as an excuse for doing it the usual grabbing way. > Indeed. And the important large like gcc and glibc have substantial corporate sponsorship without which they would be dead in the water. Grabbing from the grabbers? > > Meanwhile, people have already pointed out that there are ways to > raise money for some kinds of free software projects. From what I > hear about game product cycles, you might be able to make the game > free after a year without losing much in sales. > So If I spend $X developing my game and then sell it closed with the stated intention of opening the source as soon as it has recouped a reasonable return on my investment, this would get your official seal of approval? But isn't this exactly what Andre has been lambasted for? Perhaps you should step in and say a few words in his defence. > But if that doesn't work for you, I would not consider it a great loss > for the world if your products were not produced. They contribute > something to the world if they are free software, but otherwise not. Perhaps not. But my 40 software developing staff are still going to be mightily pissed when I don't make payroll. Richard, you started out with some noble priciples, but seem to have become a little confused somewhere along the way. The 'Don Quixote' hacker knight ;) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/