Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:40 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:40 -0500 Received: from pcp701542pcs.bowie01.md.comcast.net ([68.50.82.18]:49636 "EHLO lucifer.gotontheinter.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in non-freedrivers? From: Disconnect To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <1041725489.1770.36.camel@sbarn.net> <3E19517B.3030805@walrond.org> <3E1A16A5.8070903@walrond.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 07 Jan 2003 14:08:18 -0500 Message-Id: <1041966498.15859.18.camel@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2317 Lines: 49 On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 13:44, Richard Stallman wrote: > So If I spend $X developing my game and then sell it closed with the > stated intention of opening the source as soon as it has recouped a > reasonable return on my investment, this would get your official seal of > approval? > > Not quite. We can't count on this to result in free software. > > 2. There's no time limit. "As soon as it has recouped a reasonable > return" could mean years from now, or never. As a result, even if you > specify a specific free software license that you will use, we still > can't count on this to make the package free software in any > reasonable time. So if he specifies a specific future license (eg GPL, just to simplify things) and indicates what 'reasonable return' is (eg "a sale of 8,000 licenses" or some such) that would be ok...... > If these two points were suitably changed, this becomes a plan that I > might recommend to you if you were otherwise going to keep the > software non-free and there were no better possibility. However, I > could not recommend actually using the software while it is non-free. ....but you'd recommend that people not have the freedom to make their own price/value decisions AND (added bonus) actively work to PREVENT it ever becoming GPL'd. User: "This [game/driver/database/...] is exactly what I need, and its only $50! Its worth way more than that to me, this rules." RMS: "Sorry, you're not allowed to buy that. Just wait until it becomes free, then its all yours." User: "Um.. ok. I need it pretty soon, and $50 is a great deal; it would cost me at least $2k and time I don't have to recreate it from scratch. When will it be free so I can use it?" RMS: "Well... when a bunch of people piss me off and go buy it." .... Heh. Hehehehe. So we're back to the "software developers are evil and should all starve to death" stance. Nifty. Thank [insert diety here] that you are working so hard to destroy your reputation; I'd hate to see the number of people following your edicts actually increasing.. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/