Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:38:42 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:38:42 -0500 Received: from astound-64-85-224-253.ca.astound.net ([64.85.224.253]:62220 "EHLO master.linux-ide.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:38:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:45:51 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Hedrick To: Roman Zippel cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Linux iSCSI Initiator, OpenSource (fwd) (Re: Gauntlet Set NOW!) In-Reply-To: <3E1B3A49.42F6370E@linux-m68k.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1512 Lines: 43 On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Roman Zippel wrote: > Hi, > > Andre Hedrick wrote: > > > Please continue to think of TCP checksums as valid for a data transport, > > you data will be gone soon enough. > > > > Initiator == Controller > > Target == Disk > > iSCSI == cable or ribbon > > > > Please turn off the CRC on your disk drive and see if you still have data. > > This maybe works as PR, but otherwise it's crap. So, please turn off the CRC's in your onboard storage today and see how long it lasts. > With a network protocol you have multiple possibilities to increase the > reliability. The lower you do it in the network layer the easier is it > to put it into hardware and to optimize it and the more generically it's > usable. Doing it in the protocol is only the last resort. The iSCSI > protocol is a nice protocol - if you ignore all the crap the hardware > vendors put in (that stuff only makes sense if you want to produce ultra > cheap hardware). I will be happy to see everyone turn off the CRC's on the data and headers on their products or the open sources ones which fail to follow the rules. I am well away of everyones contempt for standards. Cheers, Andre Hedrick, CTO & Founder iSCSI Software Solutions Provider http://www.PyXTechnologies.com/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/