Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754705AbbBTSqF (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:46:05 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.9]:43285 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754297AbbBTSqC (ORCPT ); Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:46:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:45:51 +0100 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Manfred Spraul Cc: Oleg Nesterov , "Paul E. McKenney" , Kirill Tkhai , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar , Josh Poimboeuf Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] [PATCH] sched: Add smp_rmb() in task rq locking cycles Message-ID: <20150220184551.GQ2896@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <20150217121258.GM5029@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150217130523.GV24151@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150217160532.GW4166@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20150217183636.GR5029@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150217215231.GK4166@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20150218155904.GA27687@redhat.com> <54E4E479.4050003@colorfullife.com> <20150218224317.GC5029@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20150219141905.GA11018@redhat.com> <54E77CC0.5030401@colorfullife.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <54E77CC0.5030401@colorfullife.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22.1 (2013-10-16) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1394 Lines: 37 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 07:28:16PM +0100, Manfred Spraul wrote: > >We need the full barrier to serialize STORE's as well, but probably we can > >rely on control dependancy and thus we only need rmb(). > Do we need a full barrier or not? > > I don't manage to create a proper line of reasoning. I think I agree with Oleg in that we only need the smp_rmb(); of course that wants a somewhat elaborate comment to go along with it. How about something like so: spin_unlock_wait(&local); /* * The above spin_unlock_wait() forms a control dependency with * any following stores; because we must first observe the lock * unlocked and we cannot speculate stores. * * Subsequent loads however can easily pass through the loads * represented by spin_unlock_wait() and therefore we need the * read barrier. * * This together is stronger than ACQUIRE for @local and * therefore we will observe the complete prior critical section * of @local. */ smp_rmb(); The obvious alternative is using spin_unlock_wait() with an smp_load_acquire(), but that might be more expensive on some archs due to repeated issuing of memory barriers. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/