Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 03:53:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 03:53:19 -0500 Received: from [212.4.54.130] ([212.4.54.130]:65037 "EHLO station3.kontor.itsopen.no") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 03:53:18 -0500 Subject: OT Naming. was: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? From: Nils Petter Vaskinn To: rms@gnu.org Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" In-Reply-To: References: <20030102061430.GA23276@mark.mielke.cc> <20030103040612.GA10651@work.bitmover.com> <20030104220651.GA30907@merlin.emma.line.org> <20030104222330.GA1386@work.bitmover.com> <20030105221345.GA31840@mark.mielke.cc> <20030106173949.GA1712@gnuppy.monkey.org> <20030107141758.GA10770@gnuppy.monkey.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) Date: 08 Jan 2003 10:04:39 +0100 Message-Id: <1042016680.1714.16.camel@station3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1570 Lines: 39 On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 09:00, Richard Stallman wrote: > The practice of referring to the whole system by the same name as the > kernel alone leads to constant confusion between the two. You will > often see statements that "Linux is a Unix-like operating system, like > Solaris or FreeBSD, which is released under the GNU GPL." That is > false regardless of what meaning you assign to "Linux". The only way > to avoid confusion is to stop calling the whole system by the name > used for the kernel. This is what I understand is the COMMON usage: linux refers to the kernel plus the GNU software, a complete os linux-kernel refers to the kernel (which is why this is the linux-kernel mailinglist not the linux mailinglist) I have not seen the word linux used to describe an os built around the linux kernel but without the GNU software, it may be referred to as "linux based" but if they called it linux users wouldn't get what they expected and complain. The confusion you describe doesn't appear to exist, and making everybody start calling the kernel "Linux" and the os "GNU/Linux" will at best change nothing (practically, of course it may improve some peoples egos) and possibly cause confusion. The "GNU/Linux" vs "Linux" argument is a political one, not a practical one, don't try to disguise it. regards NP - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/