Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 04:57:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 04:57:20 -0500 Received: from hermine.idb.hist.no ([158.38.50.15]:48902 "HELO hermine.idb.hist.no") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 04:57:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3E1BF82B.E55C84EE@aitel.hist.no> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:06:35 +0100 From: Helge Hafting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.5.54 i686) X-Accept-Language: no, en, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? References: <1041596161.1157.34.camel@fly> <3E158738.4050003@walrond.org> <3E159336.F249C2A1@aitel.hist.no> <3E15A2C8.7060903@walrond.org> <3E195A4B.B160B1D2@aitel.hist.no> <3E196749.8080509@walrond.org> <3E1A98F0.271311CB@aitel.hist.no> <200301071515.h07FFKCR008361@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1396 Lines: 35 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > > On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:08:00 +0100, Helge Hafting said: > > loss. Giving away driver code (or at least programming specs) > > wouldn't be a loss to nvidia though - because users would still > > need to buy those cards. > > It would be a major loss to nvidia *AND* its customers if it were bankrupted in > a lawsuit because it open-sourced code or specs that contained intellectual > property that belonged to somebody else. Perhaps their driver contains some IP. But I seriously doubt the programming specs for their chips contains such secrets. It is not as if we need the entire chip layout - it is basically things like: "To achieve effect X, write command code 0x3477 into register 5 and the new coordinates into registers 75-78. Then wait 2.03ms before attempting to access the chip again..." Something is very wrong if they _can't_ release that sort of information. Several other manufacturers have no problem with this. > In the real world, ideology needs to be tempered with realism. > Sure. But in this case, it is more about common sense than ideology. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/