Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:23:37 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:23:27 -0500 Received: from neon-gw.transmeta.com ([209.10.217.66]:23820 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:23:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3A887E68.CFBF6FC5@transmeta.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:23:04 -0800 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Organization: Transmeta Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.1 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, sv, no, da, es, fr, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: timw@splhi.com CC: Alan Cox , Werner Almesberger , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600 In-Reply-To: <3A887777.3895D3F8@transmeta.com> <20010212161753.B4280@kochanski.internal.splhi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Tim Wright wrote: > > Yup, > those who fail to learn from TCP are doomed to re-invent it, badly, at the > wrong level . > Seriously, the console subsystem on the Sequent (now IBM) NUMA-Q systems > originally used UDP. It wound up as a serious mess. We changed to TCP. > I'll admit that the NUMA-Q console subsystem does more than what is being > proposed here currently, but it's likely to grow. > In general UDP is only appropriate if you *can* afford to drop data. > Did RDP ever get anywhere ? > That's the whole crux of the matter. For something like this, you *will* drop data under certain circumstances. I suspect it's better to have this done in a controlled manner, rather than stop completely, which is what TCP would do. -hpa -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://vger.kernel.org/lkml/