Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:18:04 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:18:04 -0500 Received: from cpe-66-1-218-52.fl.sprintbbd.net ([66.1.218.52]:64780 "EHLO daytona.compro.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:18:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3E1C1971.2A2FD368@compro.net> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 07:28:33 -0500 From: Mark Hounschell Reply-To: markh@compro.net Organization: Compro Computer Svcs. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-ert i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? References: <1041596161.1157.34.camel@fly> <3E158738.4050003@walrond.org> <3E159336.F249C2A1@aitel.hist.no> <3E15A2C8.7060903@walrond.org> <3E195A4B.B160B1D2@aitel.hist.no> <3E196749.8080509@walrond.org> <3E1A98F0.271311CB@aitel.hist.no> <200301071515.h07FFKCR008361@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <3E1BF82B.E55C84EE@aitel.hist.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1580 Lines: 38 Helge Hafting wrote: > > Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > > > > On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:08:00 +0100, Helge Hafting said: > > > loss. Giving away driver code (or at least programming specs) > > > wouldn't be a loss to nvidia though - because users would still > > > need to buy those cards. > > > > It would be a major loss to nvidia *AND* its customers if it were bankrupted in > > a lawsuit because it open-sourced code or specs that contained intellectual > > property that belonged to somebody else. > > Perhaps their driver contains some IP. But I seriously doubt the > programming specs for their chips contains such secrets. It is > not as if we need the entire chip layout - it is basically > things like: > > "To achieve effect X, write command code 0x3477 into register 5 > and the new coordinates into registers 75-78. Then wait 2.03ms before > attempting to access the chip again..." > > Something is very wrong if they _can't_ release that sort of > information. > Several other manufacturers have no problem with this. Aren't nvidias' chipsets really owned by SGI. It think there is some deal nvidia has with SGI that prohibits nvidia from opening up their driver and chip set info. It's looking like SGI might be gone soon. Maybe if they disappear, nvidia can do what they want??? Mark - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/