Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:36:28 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:36:28 -0500 Received: from cpe-66-1-218-52.fl.sprintbbd.net ([66.1.218.52]:48910 "EHLO daytona.compro.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3E1C47F3.C59B1FFC@compro.net> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 10:46:59 -0500 From: Mark Hounschell Reply-To: markh@compro.net Organization: Compro Computer Svcs. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-ert i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Why is Nvidia given GPL'd code to use in closed source drivers? References: <3E1BF82B.E55C84EE@aitel.hist.no> <3E1C1971.2A2FD368@compro.net> <200301080933.42461.pollard@admin.navo.hpc.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1907 Lines: 45 Jesse Pollard wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 January 2003 06:28 am, Mark Hounschell wrote: > > Helge Hafting wrote: > > > Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > > > > On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:08:00 +0100, Helge Hafting > said: > > > > > loss. Giving away driver code (or at least programming specs) > > > > > wouldn't be a loss to nvidia though - because users would still > > > > > need to buy those cards. > > > > > > > > It would be a major loss to nvidia *AND* its customers if it were > > > > bankrupted in a lawsuit because it open-sourced code or specs that > > > > contained intellectual property that belonged to somebody else. > > > > > > Perhaps their driver contains some IP. But I seriously doubt the > > > programming specs for their chips contains such secrets. It is > > > not as if we need the entire chip layout - it is basically > > > things like: > > > > > > "To achieve effect X, write command code 0x3477 into register 5 > > > and the new coordinates into registers 75-78. Then wait 2.03ms before > > > attempting to access the chip again..." > > > > > > Something is very wrong if they _can't_ release that sort of > > > information. > > > Several other manufacturers have no problem with this. > > > > Aren't nvidias' chipsets really owned by SGI. It think there is some deal > > nvidia has with SGI that prohibits nvidia from opening up their driver and > > chip set info. It's looking like SGI might be gone soon. Maybe if they > > disappear, nvidia can do what they want??? > > Think they sold it to Microsoft.... I think what they sold to MS was some part of "OPENGL" software not anything hardware related. Mark - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/