Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:02:57 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:02:57 -0500 Received: from chaos.analogic.com ([204.178.40.224]:15488 "EHLO chaos.analogic.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:02:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:11:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard B. Johnson" Reply-To: root@chaos.analogic.com To: vlad@geekizoid.com cc: "'John Alvord'" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rms@gnu.org Subject: Re: What's in a name? In-Reply-To: <012201c2b7f2$5ffd4e40$0200a8c0@wsl3> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 13550 Lines: 244 On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com wrote: > And in that same period, look at Linux, and then look at Hurd. Hurd even > has the advantage of using giant chunks of Linux code, but it still is > basically useless. > > Why should Linux be refered to as GNU/Linux because of tools, and yet Hurd > doesn't give credit where credit is due? RMS has done more to hurt GNU with > his current stance on the matter than Microsoft ever could. He's getting > annoying, too. > > Regards, > Scott > Damn. This is getting tried and it doesn't seem to "go away". Anybody remember this Copyright notice?? Most ALL of the early Linux Distributions contained programs with this notice: /* * Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. * All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted * provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are * duplicated in all such forms and that any documentation, * advertising materials, and other materials related to such * distribution and use acknowledge that the software was developed * by the University of California, Berkeley. The name of the * University may not be used to endorse or promote products derived * from this software without specific prior written permission. * THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED ``AS IS'' AND WITHOUT ANY EXPRESS OR * IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, THE IMPLIED * WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTIBILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. */ #ifndef lint char copyright[] = "@(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California.\n\ All rights reserved.\n"; #endif /* not lint */ ...however. Something happened so that this code was lifted "whole cloth" into some later distributions that contained the GNU License notice. By some unknown mystery, the embeded copyright notice was eliminated as well. However, much of the code remained the same. In some little-used programs, all the code, including the bug, remained the same. If I had anything to do with so-called GNU, I'd keep my mouth shut so this wholesale appropriation of intellectual property was not investigated. Here is an early distribution of Linux: Script started on Thu Jan 9 10:55:02 2003 # cd /usr/bin # strings * | grep Regents @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 The Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1985, 1989 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. Based on BSD gprof, copyright 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1986 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983, 1989 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 by NCEMRSoft and Copyright (c) 1985, 1989 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1985,1989 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1985, 1989 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983, 1990 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1993 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1987, 1992 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983, 1990 The Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983, 1990 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1988 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1988, 1990 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980, 1991 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. # strings * | grep Regents @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 The Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1990 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1985, 1989 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. Based on BSD gprof, copyright 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1986 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983, 1989 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995 by NCEMRSoft and Copyright (c) 1985, 1989 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1985,1989 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1985, 1989 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983, 1990 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1993 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1987, 1992 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983, 1990 The Regents of the University of California. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1983, 1990 The Regents of the University The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. # cd /bin # strings * | grep Regents @(#) Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980, 1987, 1988 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1980 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1989 The Regents of the University of California. @(#) Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. # cd /sbin # strings * | grep Regents strings: control: No such file or directory strings: discard: No such file or directory The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. strings: server: No such file or directory The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. strings: sysinit: No such file or directory # exit Script done on Thu Jan 9 10:57:53 2003 So much for the absolute bullshit that GNU started Linux and that there is somehow a GNU/Linux. Most all of the early distributions used programs ported from BSD. The Linux-BSD emulation was so good, thanks to Linus and others, that most programs needed to only be recompiled. That, ladies and gentlemen, is the true history of the "Linux Operating System" with all of the components that RMS insists are his, actually coming from the University of California, Berkeley. Don't be bambozzled by the persons who will re-write history to glorify their accomplishments. Saying something over-and-over again doesn't make it true. Facts stand alone. They only need to be noted. Bullshit needs repeating. Cheers, Dick Johnson Penguin : Linux version 2.4.18 on an i686 machine (797.90 BogoMips). Why is the government concerned about the lunatic fringe? Think about it. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/