Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753038AbbB1W1X (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:27:23 -0500 Received: from mail-la0-f51.google.com ([209.85.215.51]:41924 "EHLO mail-la0-f51.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752937AbbB1W1U (ORCPT ); Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:27:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150228165706.GS3964@htj.duckdns.org> References: <1424660891-12719-1-git-send-email-cyphar@cyphar.com> <20150227114940.GB3964@htj.duckdns.org> <54F09E62.8000007@gmail.com> <20150227170640.GK3964@htj.duckdns.org> <20150227174503.GM3964@htj.duckdns.org> <20150227214904.GQ3964@htj.duckdns.org> <20150228165706.GS3964@htj.duckdns.org> From: Tim Hockin Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 14:26:58 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZImL3Yiemx2XPNqHDMUMF_eod78 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem To: Tejun Heo Cc: Frederic Weisbecker , Austin S Hemmelgarn , Li Zefan , Peter Zijlstra , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Cgroups , Aleksa Sarai , richard , mingo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1299 Lines: 28 On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Tejun Heo wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 08:48:12AM -0800, Tim Hockin wrote: > > I am sorry that real-user problems are not perceived as substantial. This > > was/is a real issue for us. Being in limbo for years on end might not be a > > technical point, but I do think it matters, and that was my point. > > It's a problem which is localized to you and caused by the specific > problems of your setup. This isn't a wide-spread problem at all and > the world doesn't revolve around you. If your setup is so messed up > as to require sticking to 16bit pids, handle that locally. If > something at larger scale eases that handling, you get lucky. If not, > it's *your* predicament to deal with. The rest of the world doesn't > exist to wipe your ass. Wow, so much anger. I'm not even sure how to respond, so I'll just say this and sign off. All I want is a better, friendlier, more useful system overall. We clearly have different ways of looking at the problem. No antagonism intended Tim -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/