Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:07:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:06:34 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]:14293 "EHLO fencepost.gnu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:05:37 -0500 From: Richard Stallman To: "Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com" cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-reply-to: <010101c2b786$794d87a0$0200a8c0@wsl3> (vlad@vlad.geekizoid.com) Subject: Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <010101c2b786$794d87a0$0200a8c0@wsl3> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:14:20 -0500 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2021 Lines: 46 Do you actually buy your own bullshit here? If so, that's sad. I used to respect you. One wonders what it is you thought I had done, when you respected me for it ;-). I'd like to see you put your money where your mouth is I've dedicated my life to free software since 1984, and have been working for the cause more than full time, all these 19 years. I think that counts as "putting my money where my mouth is" for the movement. If it doesn't, then you have set a standard so high that perhaps nobody in the world qualifies. - PROVE that GNU (not just people who have release GPL'd software) contributed most of the work to say Slackware, or Debian, or Red Hat. Let's be careful. I don't say that the GNU software packages were most of the early GNU/Linux system. They were, however, the largest contribution of any single project. Probably they still are. GNU, the system we were developing, was most of the early GNU/Linux system in 1992. GNU in 1992 included non-GNU packages such as X11, and TeX. If we look at the GNU packages alone rather than the GNU system as a whole, they were a large fraction of the early GNU/Linux system. The specific data point I have comes from Adam Richter, who maintained an early distro. In 1995, he counted up the code and found that GNU packages added up to 28% of his distro. Linux, the kernel, was 3% of that distro. I would expect that both GNU code and Linux make up smaller fractions of current GNU/Linux distros, because so many other programs have been added over the years. It's a good thing that so many free programs have been developed, and that so many people have contributed, but this doesn't change the system's history. It started out as the combination of GNU and Linux. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/