Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:21:00 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:21:00 -0500 Received: from netrealtor.ca ([216.209.85.42]:3590 "EHLO mark.mielke.cc") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:20:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:38:14 -0500 From: Mark Mielke To: Richard Stallman Cc: jalvo@mbay.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Names as origin component paths... Message-ID: <20030110183814.GB4575@mark.mielke.cc> References: <010101c2b786$794d87a0$0200a8c0@wsl3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2468 Lines: 54 On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 04:52:50AM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > If there was an ATT/Linux and an Intel/Linux, > having a GNU/Linux would make some sense... but that is not the way it > is. GNU/Linux is singular, so Linux makes a reasonable contraction. > It would be reasonable, if not for the fact that it gives the wrong > idea of who developed the system and--above all--why. There is a reason why I am not named Mark Mielke-Newman, and our newborn son is not named Ethan Mielke-Herighty-Newman-Marr. Some people like to maintain origin when deriving new names. Other people realize that the practice is impractical, and the consequence, if followed to the natural extreme, would allow for an exponentially increasing length in name as each generation passes. If you properly attributed the origins of GNU projects, I think you would find an extremely impractical naming convention. GNU, and GNU software, is not 100% derivative free. Linux itself does not require any GNU software at all, except in the sense that it happens to use GNU software, and it may therefore rely on extensions that only exist in GNU software, however, that does not stop anybody else from enhancing their own products to include the GNU extensions. Freedom is as freedom does. If you want to bug RedHat to call their distribution RedHat GNU/Linux, go right ahead. As for "Linux", its only real attachment to GNU is that it happens to use a qualified reference to the GPL as its licensing restrictions. Not all GPL software is "GNU" software. So please... stop... You are not helping the free software movement by (badly) arguing minor technicalities. Your previous efforts have been very well received and respected. Don't ruin this. mark -- mark@mielke.cc/markm@ncf.ca/markm@nortelnetworks.com __________________________ . . _ ._ . . .__ . . ._. .__ . . . .__ | Neighbourhood Coder |\/| |_| |_| |/ |_ |\/| | |_ | |/ |_ | | | | | | \ | \ |__ . | | .|. |__ |__ | \ |__ | Ottawa, Ontario, Canada One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them... http://mark.mielke.cc/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/