Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:39:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:39:07 -0500 Received: from deimos.hpl.hp.com ([192.6.19.190]:46801 "EHLO deimos.hpl.hp.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:39:06 -0500 From: David Mosberger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15903.30632.576801.904652@napali.hpl.hp.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 17:47:20 -0800 To: Rusty Russell Cc: davidm@hpl.hp.com, Mike Stephens , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bjornw@axis.com, geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@gnu.org, mkp@mkp.net, willy@debian.org, anton@samba.org, gniibe@m17n.org, kkojima@rr.iij4u.or.jp, Jeff Dike Subject: Re: Userspace Test Framework for module loader porting In-Reply-To: <20030110073328.C96122C2A8@lists.samba.org> References: <15898.8498.519625.200668@napali.hpl.hp.com> <20030110073328.C96122C2A8@lists.samba.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under Emacs 21.2.1 Reply-To: davidm@hpl.hp.com X-URL: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/David_Mosberger/ Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1342 Lines: 30 >>>>> On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:44:15 +1100, Rusty Russell said: >> I'd rather prefer the old (user-level loader) >> or the new shared-object loader. Rusty> Really? Because it already exists (and is maintained by Rusty> someone else) or for some other reason? Yeah, I'm lazy: I don't really want to have to deal with two new module loaders: one for 2.6, soon to be followed by one for 2.7. But if someone volunteers to do and _maintain_ an interim kernel loader, that's fine with me. Rusty> I thought about letting archs choose which one they wanted to Rusty> use, but it would really mess up the core code. Of course, Rusty> the transition won't break userspace (kind of the whole point Rusty> of the in-kernel module loader). But it would be more in keeping with the Linux philosophy: do the Right Thing, fix up "broken" stuff by doing whatever is necessary. I'm also a bit worried about changing module loaders so often. Yeah, once you switch to a kernel-loader, presumably users won't be affected, but (kernel-module) developers will be. --david - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/