Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:50:31 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:50:31 -0500 Received: from mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.46]:1759 "EHLO mta11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:50:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:55:58 -0500 From: Rob Wilkens Subject: Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" In-reply-to: <1042255571.32431.43.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> To: Alan Cox Cc: Larry McVoy , Larry Sendlosky , Richard Stallman , Linux Kernel Mailing List Reply-to: robw@optonline.net Message-id: <1042253757.1259.66.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> Organization: Robert Wilkens MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <7BFCE5F1EF28D64198522688F5449D5A03C0F4@xchangeserver2.storigen.com> <1042250324.1278.18.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> <20030111020738.GC9373@work.bitmover.com> <1042255571.32431.43.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1867 Lines: 40 On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 22:26, Alan Cox wrote: > On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 02:07, Larry McVoy wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 08:58:44PM -0500, Rob Wilkens wrote: > > > If I had been familiar with UNIX > > > at the time I had those books, I might've written ROBIX ... > > > > If I had ham, I could make ham and eggs, if I had some eggs. > > Its not ham you need its utter arrogance and a complete lack of understanding > that writing an OS is a seriously hard problem. There is a whole world of > mysticism around the concept of a 'beginners mind' although to me > "Im sorry nobody told me it was impossible" sums it up far better. It depends what you're starting with, and what your goals are. If your goal is to write an operating system that runs on all hardware and does everything for everyone, then, yes, impossible would seem to fit. But what I was writing about specifically said that I've read the book dissecting dos in the distant past, as mentioned, and the slightly thicker book, writing your own 32-bit operating system, again in the distant past, and I've written dos-based interrupt handlers to use a mouse in a dos text app, and I've taken college courses in operating systems design and implementation, and even back in 1996 I've taken a course specifically on Linux implementation (a kernel hacking class). Had my goal at the time been as simple as Linus' goal was an been to just get a simple terminal emulator and grow it slowly, I don't think impossible would have described the task. I think "a project that I do in my spare time and show to nobody" would more likely have described it. -Rob - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/