Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932668AbbDMUJB (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:09:01 -0400 Received: from a.ns.miles-group.at ([95.130.255.143]:65275 "EHLO radon.swed.at" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751610AbbDMUI7 (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:08:59 -0400 Message-ID: <552C2258.9020006@nod.at> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 22:08:56 +0200 From: Richard Weinberger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Kroah-Hartman CC: Richard Weinberger , "Eric W. Biederman" , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Arnd Bergmann , One Thousand Gnomes , Tom Gundersen , Jiri Kosina , Andy Lutomirski , LKML , daniel@zonque.org, David Herrmann , Djalal Harouni Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1 References: <20150413190350.GA9485@kroah.com> <8738434yjk.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> <20150413194217.GA10837@kroah.com> <20150413195458.GA11672@kroah.com> <552C1FA4.7080504@nod.at> <20150413200306.GA12400@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20150413200306.GA12400@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2244 Lines: 54 Am 13.04.2015 um 22:03 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:57:24PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote: >> >> Am 13.04.2015 um 21:54 schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman: >>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 09:49:27PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote: >>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman >>>> wrote: >>>>>> I remain opposed to this half thought out trash of an ABI for the >>>>>> meta-data. >>>>> >>>>> You don't have to enable the metadata if you don't want to use it, it's >>>>> an option :) >>>> >>>> Wasn't this also an argument for CONFIG_CGROUPS? >>>> Now we're forced to enable it by default to boot a recent distro >>>> and CONFIG_CGROUPS is still not fixed. >>> >>> CONFIG_CGROUPS is "not fixed"? I think Tejun would like to have some >>> words with you :) >> >> Tejun is working on it and does a *very* good job. But as long the unified >> hirarchy is not complete/stable we're facing issues. >> Ever tried to run systemd a linux container? ;) > > Works just fine for me, I do it daily. Here's how I spin up a debian > image on my local filesystem, running systemd within it just swimmingly: > sudo systemd-nspawn -D debian/ /sbin/init > > Also works just fine with gentoo and arch images, both of which I use on > a weekly basis in this manner. > > Perhaps you are doing something odd that prevents this from working for > you? systemd-nspawn does not support user namespaces. But the real issue is that cgroup notification does not work within namespaces. I.e. systemd within the namespaces does not get a notify when all processes within a cgroup are gone. You'll notice that by running a container a long time, systemd will get slower and slower as a lot of sessions (mostly crond) will stay. It is known by systemd folks and I have been told that they need the new unified cgroup hirarchy to deal with that. I consult a lot in the linux container hosting area and had a lot of "fun" with issues like that... Thanks, //richard -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/